I’m not sure cyborgs are supposed to be drinking beer
March 8, 2013
4:02 am
I’m sure people are going to call blasphemy on this, but I think Raiden is great. There’s just something about the story of a dismembered partial skull of a Jareth lookalike strapped to a robot walking around in a tearaway Chippendale suit just trying to be taken seriously that makes him everything I’ve ever wanted in an action game.
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Not drawing him with the super shiny metal jaw huh.
Also yeah, Revengeance is super fun.
It’s the prologue body. The body with the metal jaw is different
Yeah, but both are equally valid for use here, just wondering why she would pick one over the other.
The haircut worked better for the joke, it emotes better, and frankly, I like it more in the game because the seam running through the middle of his face has this uncanny valley thing going on where he almost looks normal with clothes on but he seems just a little bit off. I also think it looks older, the haircut/eyepatch thing with the body for the rest of the game looks kind of like he’s a teenager.
Now I want to see how you’d render Handsome Jack.
I already did a handsome Jack comic.
And it was excellent
I would like to know a little more about the relationship he seemed to share with the Commander’s daughter. Jack doesn’t exactly strike me a being very child friendly when I play Boarderlands 2.
You forget that Jack has a daughter… or maybe that’s why you’re saying that.
Bit of a Necro, but i actually cant think about a much SAFER person to have around the commanders daughter, as Jack REALLY doesn’t like people hurting kids.
I like how they’re all left handed.
I dunno about you, but I hold my beer with my left hand because I use my right hand for everything else.
Besides, you don’t want someone to call “Moose” on you when you’re in the moose club. That’s a dangerous way to get nasty drunk in a very short amount of time.
As a lefty who drinks with his right, I approve this statement.
Well, I’m right handed and I hold with my right also…
Quite hard to do it with the other one, if your thumb is not working.
JUST KIDDING!
It’s missing entirely.
JUST KIDDING!
I don’t even drink beer…
…
Maybe I’ll just go with the seconds one instead… HOLD MY BEER!
Cyborgs are totally not supposed to drink beer. Look what happened to Darth Cheney and his artificial heart and his aim after just a few beers on that hunting trip.
Maybe Commander is holding a grenade, because he’s so Crazy Prepared if there’s an ambush?? XD *LOLs*
I hold my beer in whatever hand I just feel like.
Beer tastes the same, so idc. :E
how are you supposed to shake the hand of someone you meet or write down your number for someone or use your phone or operate your fly if you have your beer in your dominant hand?
Move it to the other hand for the time being? I’m sure the hand-shaker wont mind a little condensation…
Has Platinum/Clover ever made a BAD game?
Not one that just had some shortcomings, but was outright BAD?
I don’t think they even know HOW to do that.
Mad World was fucking awful and the fact that they made me bored in a game where I get to be a beefmuscle marine in a leather onesie with a chainsaw strapped to his arm is a testament to just how terrible it really was.
I was fully prepared to Emperor’s New Clothes it and pretend it was great no matter how bad it turned out to be, but when it turned out to be less entertaining than watching my tomato plant grow I couldn’t lie to myself anymore.
You’re insane. Madworld was hilarious and a ton of fun finding all the creative ways to kill dudes.
They were all basically iterations of the same three or four ways to kill a dude, it broke up gameplay HORRIBLY to drag dudes from one side of the park to the other to use different items on them, and one you did something a couple times the entertainment value it produced versus time it took to set up bottomed out so hard that it was quicker just to chainsaw punch people until you got to the boss. I think i stopped playing completely when I got to the level with the grim Reaper dude. HEY YOU KNOW WHAT THIS BORING REPETITIVE GAME NEEDS? A RANDOM ONE-HIT-KO ENEMY THAT MAKES YOU START OVER AGAIN!
MadWorld is a game I really wish was good, and I sometimes play it again, thinking that there’s something I’m missing, but it just isn’t any fun. A shame, too, I like the game’s setting, style, and humor.
At least Anarchy Reigns has some of these things while actually being fun to play.
Alien Colonial Marines is the only game i could not finish for precisely that reason, they managed to make shooting aliens boring, which is quite a feat
You basically stopped playing before you even got halfway through the game, which is fine, but it invalidates your comment that all the ways to kill guys were just variations on the same 3-4 ways. I always found the senseless silly violence entertaining, Greg Proops and John DiMaggio kept my laughing my ass off, I couldn’t wait to see the Black Baron in every new stage. The Grim Reaper enemy was super easy to beat. I loved all the bosses, they were so unique and fun, especially the bat chick. The music was amazing and always had me tapping my toe or just standing there listening to it.
Ohh well, different strokes for different folks. Madworld is my probably my favorite Wii game next to No More Heroes, so I was just shocked to see you didn’t like it when I feel like its probably one of the most unique experiences on the system.
“The game doesn’t start getting fun until it’s more than half over” is probably the worst defense of a shitty game I’ve ever heard.
And if you were really that entertained my Proops and DiMaggio parroting the same lame catchphrases ad nauseum, well, I guess that says about all I need to know about your taste, Because I’m pretty sure after a while I just muted the TV.
What about Final Fantasy XIII? I’ve heard it described precisely in the manner of “not fun till” which by your reasoning would make it a poor defense of a shitty game. However, people seem to both love and hate it for that and other reasons. Personally I despised everything about the game from the excessive map running to the seemingly rancid and boring combat system.
Now obviously that’s just my opinion on FF XIII which I’m sure a good portion of your readers thoroughly enjoyed, but isn’t that the point? I thought it was terrible and _____ thought it was gods gift to man. Let’s not hate on others opinions, maybe the one thing to which we are all still entitled (apart from death and taxes).
P.S. Love the comics, keep it up Coel.
If someone gave you a salad covered in ants and dirt, would you say the clean leaves at the bottom make it a good salad? Because I wouldn’t.
Not sure I see where you were going with that, since I wouldn’t consider that a salad anymore than I would consider bread taped to a cow a hamburger. Plus, in the event that I did think that made a good salad your analogy turns into “your opinion doesn’t matter and im right” as opposed to “a game not to my taste is not a good game at all.”
Congratulations, you’ve just proven that you have no idea how analogies work. I’m going to save Coelasquid the trouble and educate you, assuming you can even absorb the information.
An analogy is where parallels are drawn between two different things to highlight some similarity and clarify a point. In this case, Coelasquid is making a comparison between a salad that has dirt and ants for its first half and normal salad for it’s second half and a video game that’s boring for its first half and entertaining for it’s second half. You would not enjoy a salad that was half dirt and ants because the nasty bits ruin the flavor of the greens; similarly, most people don’t enjoy a video game that’s half shit because the shitty parts make them angry or bored, which ruins the fun parts by putting the gamer in a bad mood.
Oh, and given that the salad was an analogy for Mad World, by saying that the aforementioned it isn’t really a salad at all, you’ve effectively said that Mad World isn’t really a game at all. On that subject, I’m going to make an analogy of my own. Your argument is like a kitten in that it’s weak and fragile, and your defense against the salad analogy is like a lit firework rocket taped to that kitten in that it destroys your argument in a spectacular manner.
Wow man, you must be an English teacher or something…you are just waaay too extra smart for me.
Except that I was defending somebodies right to their opinion and their enjoyment of the previously mentioned shitty salad, not trying to force feed it to you and tell you that it’s a five star meal. And while we’re on the topic, I happen to agree with you guys that madworld is terrible, and in my opinion so was FFXIII, although im not sure why you seem to feel the need to crush other people’s opinions based on what YOU think makes a decent or good game. If they enjoy the shitty salad, ants and all, then who are you to take that from them by telling them they are stupid and so is their game? Turns out you’re trying to save coelasquid from… nothing, since she is entitled to her opinion as much as the next guy or gal.
Also if you tried, I bet you could be just a tad more condescending. Don’t give up on your dreams and you could just grow up to be the most condescending asshole. (I hear there is a cash prize for that!)
I didn’t say the game starts getting fun after a certain point. You said there weren’t enough ways to kill guys. I rebutted saying maybe if you played more than half the game you would realize that comment is incorrect.
Clearly the game wasn’t to your liking, but to say it was an objectively bad game (like the original poster asked) is being too aggressive when it had so much going for it and has an aggregate score of 81% and stands out as one of the most unique, stylish, and inventive action games for the platform.
The game’s not a sentient object, man. It’s not going to go home and cry about the bad things she said about it, and unless you’re a very impressionable person indeed, her comments aren’t going to lessen your enjoyment of it.
I hate it when people do this. They see someone give a low score or a derogatory comment to something they like, and they immediately spring up and say, “Well you’re just stupid and wrong, because all these people and publications thought it was good!” People can be as aggressive as they want with their opinions. That’s the whole point of opinions. The only justification for the kind of insulting reaction you gave her was if she’d said “Madworld was bad and people who like it are bad.” Instead, she simply said that she didn’t enjoy the game, and listed the reasons why. No comment whatsoever was made about the people who did like it. Thus, she ends up looking like the mature adult, and you end up looking like the idiot child. Bravo.
“And if you were really that entertained my Proops and DiMaggio parroting the same lame catchphrases ad nauseum, well, I guess that says about all I need to know about your taste..”
That quote which which was preceeded by jashin giving his reasons why he liked the game sure seems like a comment on a person who liked it. Which, while I would not consider to be insulting, since as he said, “different strokes for different folks!” could be perceived that way to more than a few people.
Considering the content of the original post, I think it’s perfectly acceptable for both points of view about madworld to be expressed. As for the things she listed, I would consider them a set of gameplay and immersion related “shortcomings” unless you are going to try and say that art direction, originality, use of motion sensing and a myriad of other things that are a part of the consumer experience with videogames contribute nothing to the overall “good/bad” rating.
My final point would be a nobody said “Well you’re just stupid and wrong, because all these people and publications thought it was good!” The relevance of popular opinion and game ratings that was stated has everything to do with backing up the fact that regardless of how enjoyable (or boring) anyone found this game it was clearly not a BAD in the sense that OP meant.
So instead of getting worked up over things that didn’t even happen and proving to everyone how ignorant you are about this discussion, why dont you let the adults who are choosing to use our reasoning and words like mature individuals continue our chat.
The only person I see getting worked up here is the one who just wrote a five paragraph essay about how angry they are that I think someone has a taste in humour that I am diametrically opposed to.
“Hey eat this salad, the live ants on it are so great!” That guy may love ants on his salad but he just said all I need to know about his measure of “so great”
What? I don’t believe I said anything about being angry with you or your view on anybodies sense of humor. I do believe that I quoted you to show him that he had not been reading very clearly (which seems to be a trend here considering the metaphor guy insulted my intelligence and berated me about a point I addressed already by acknowledging that many people do enjoy FFXIII, although I would consider the “ant salad”), as contrary to what he said you clearly did say something about someone who likes the game regardless of whether it was offensive or not.
What I do find myself getting worked up about is the hypocritical nature of the fellow who said that people can be as aggressive about their opinions as the wish, as long as they are apparently you and not the other person who was supporting their opinion with these things called “facts” after doing the same thing you did and describing why they liked/disliked the game. It seems like people care less about letting him have his opinion than they care about defending your opinion for you. Now that just doesn’t make very much sense to me…
While I was under the impression that the people here were mostly mature, it turns out I was incorrect as anonymity seems to breed assbaggery in the whole group of us. On that note, I’m going to drop this and stop posting before someone else accuses me of something more amusing than writing a five paragraph essay about how “angry” I am about your view of somebodies sense of humor.
P.S. It was only four paragraphs, the quote doesn’t count towards the tally.
I can respect that as I feel it wasn’t up to the same standards as say Bayonetta, for one it focused more on artsyness and the death traps than the actual combat.
Still their record is still vastly better than Ninja Theory’s, you know the team that brought us the ever mature DONTE. I can only imagine DONTE trying to get in only to find out he’s less qualified than the original.
I am a pretty big Clover/Platinum fan, but I thought Anarchy Reigns was TERRIBLE, and I had looked forward to it for several months.
Bad is subjective. I really dug on Mad World (although, like many of my games, I didn’t finish it. I am so looking forward to skipping the next generation just so I can start finishing my games.) but this is not a universal opinion.
Anarchy Reigns is probably the closest to bad. The multiplayer is pretty much “slam the buttons and hope for victory” and the singleplayer was tacked on after they found out that nobody wanted a MP-only game. That said, it amused me enough as a rental that, as a budget title, I decided to get it.
Raiden is lucky because he can still live with his wife and child, which is a different story for, Robocop, I guess. Also, I can’t understaJacknd all the hate towards Jack, he was pretty decent in MGS2 and Rose was way more annoying than any other character in the franchise.
It’s not so much hate of Jack as it is hate of MGS2’s bait and switch marketing campaign. It’s a good game, but not the game we spent months getting worked up about. Nobody likes getting hit with a bait and switch. Some people are still pissed off about it.
I could never get mad at those gorgeous thighs of his.
Poor Murphy can only enter in a chin-and-teeth-off with the Judges.
Everyone loses to the chiseled Jaw of Law!!
You’d think that, but actually he’s got a very extensive collection of lip-sticks and does a pretty nifty version of Science Fiction-Double Feature.
I love the King of the Hill visual reference – and, of course, the confirmation that badasses can TOO prettify their hair if they want to.
I’m with you XD it’s awesome all around
He sells hair, and hair accessories.
That, of course, leaves one large question unanswered:
Who’s the Boomhauer analogue?
Jareth had better hair. I’m sorry, but he just did. Plus the whole skin-tight crotch thing is rather distracting when it’s David Bowie, and I’m a straight male. So it must be pretty overpowering if you’re sexually attracted to that kind of thing!
Y’know, I watched that as a child and it never bothered me. Didn’t see it for years, watched it as an adult, and my FIRST THOUGHT was “Oh, my god. Is he wearing a CUP?” You’re right, it’s very distracting.
I knew I wasn’t alone in this! And it isn’t just the way he happens to have a bulging crotch, it’s the way he discretely thrusts it outwards, and stands with his legs apart to draw the attention. While playing with some balls. Freud would have a field day.
funniest part of all it’s not even DB whos playing with the balls, but someone behind him. XD
Yeah, object tumbling is a pretty mad skill to have, so they needed a stunt-hand to play with his balls for him :D
C’mon… Raiden just sucks. He is an anime-wanabee that just got updated for Metal Gear Solid 4 (even that game was a huge “over-do-ish” movie, altough with great moments), but in Metal Gear Solid 2 could have been great if didn’t play the noob.
Frankly, I think it was pretty entertaining that Kojima got a letter from a girl saying she didn’t want to play as an old man and he was just like “fuck it, let’s just make the next game star the most out-of-place, inappropriately beautiful dude but leave everything else exactly as gritty as it was before”. I think one of the best things about the Metal Gear Solid series is that they aren’t afraid to take total 180’s with their heroes. “Okay so this time you’ll be a glam rocker but next time you’ll be the token dark-haired-stubbly-white-guy again but after that you’ll be a senior citizen and then after that you’ll be a robocop ninja”
It’s like if one day the gears of war guys were like “man, we’ve been using Marcus Fenix too much. How about next time we make the main character a thirteen year old girl or something. Just leave all the other stuff the same, though, only that one character needs to be changed.” I’m pretty sure it would be an entertaining, memorable experience.
Plus it’s almost like some kind of profound commentary on how absurd the characters we accept as action heroes are. “Yeah, sure this young guy with perfect eyeliner and feathered hair doesn’t really make a realistic commando, but neither do all the aging bodybuilders you would have readily accepted instead.”
Meh, touche. But I find quite funny that you did not make jokes about Raiden when not so long ago there was a Nomura syndrome breakout out there.
About that thirteen year-old schoolgirl instead Marcus Phoenix… do want xD
Considering that a) Raiden did not start out as big gruff guy who was inexplicably transformed into someone uncharacteristically beautiful b) Raiden is probably “prettied up” by the fans as much as if not more than Solid Snake, people run with it and draw him looking like a full on prepubescent girl a lot of the time and c) he’s one of the only people who looks the way he does in his story (aside from Raikov, but that was deliberate) and it’s not a case of the entire cast belonging to some pretty singularity, Raiden existing and being prettier than Snake has nothing to do with the Nomura arc!
You have a point xD I guess Raiden was more born this way (haha lady gaga pun. Give me a cookie).
About the Nomura Arc, I got the joke like it was intended on all bishonen, altough it seems it was just a beautification of big, badass action heroes. How silly of me. Thanks for the chat :D
A thirteen year old girl as the main character of Gears of War?
Japan is on the case!
I’d buy that if only for how cheerful she looks.
Ok Now I want to play Metal Gear. I always thought that it was just another FPS with a token marine in it, but wow it has interesting characters in it. That makes it sound interesting as opposed to every other FPS.
Watch me really blow your mind: it’s not an FPS either.
not unless you click the ADS button then it kinda, but yeah its certainly an TPS
Yeah, I loved that too. Also him running around naked, it was just too funny that we got all these shots of this extreamly pretty man’s ass all up in this gritty war game. There were some things about how his past were revealed and a lot of his convos that annoyed me, but everything else was fine and the haters can just… have their opinions seperate from mine I guess.
For me, the Irony for me was how some gamers play the ‘aw, men are objectified too’ card when female gamers complain about the more uncomfortable cheesecake elements, then reacted so hostile to a male character who was actively designed to appeal more to girls tastes, as opposed to being a male power fantasy.
I dont care what player i play as long as they do it right, it frustrates me more to have an extraordinarily muscled guy that cant punch through wooden doors than to play a character that has to be stealthy all the time
In the new Gears of War they kind of changed up the main character, but instead of a little girl, it’s a pallate swapped Commander from your comic ._. just…look at him. That’s what I thought anyways…Even though it’s Damon Baird.
R, I disagree – MGS2’s themes, direction and ideas are so strongly tied to Raiden and the fact that he is a ‘n00b’, that to substitute a different character – Snake, for example – would not work; it would have to be an entirely different game. If you want a Snake game you have MGS1 or Snake Eater, which are brilliant, but whether you like Raiden or not, he *is* MGS2, to some extent.
Yeah, I guess the script is aimed for a fish-out-the-pond main character type. Also it the story of Jack, but I think the lack of notable backstory made harder to emphatize the meaning of the character… We hust got a few scenes and references. With Snake got 2 games before we know something significant from his past… But makes you the point. No Raiden, no MGS2.
I didn’t particularly like Raiden in MGS2, but I didn’t hate him either. I just couldn’t find much to like about him back then, and his conversations with his girlfriend were annoying.
I haven’t played any of the games that he’s been in since then, but I do have a soft spot for ridiculous characters, and if he’s gotten increasingly weird since then, I suppose I’ll be more partial to him in future.
Coelasquid’s certainly made him sound fantastic.
Hate him not… You hate someone like Liquid Snake. It’s just more like “hey bro, where’s your charisma? Oh wait, you became a super ninja cyborg who can stop floating fortresses from coliding with your mentor!” Gray Fox was cool (tough I find his Null persona a bit cheesy) and it seems that ninjas are some kind of legacy in MGS saga, but I believe Raiden could have been a better character from the beggining. Right now for me it’s like if Al Gore started to rap, more or less.
King of the Hill!
Man, I should really get around to finishing Revengeance. I’m on the final level, but only have weekends to play it.
SOON.
How DARE you not make a King of the hill reference
Yep.
Yep.
Mmm-hmm.
gunnagodangolyupuhuh
*Bobby walks by with Connie*
I tell you hwhat.
Man, see, there was a point where I was getting really skeptical about Rising because it didn’t seem to be a true Metal Gear game. Now I’m starting to realize it’s got all the batshit insanity of it’s predecessors, even is stealth matters less. It’s just that the antagonists don’t really have any depth or reason to them as far as I can tell, besides “Oh gee I sure like war and killing things”. Except for, like, maybe one of them?
Fun game though. I’ve liked Raiden since MGS2, so I’m kind of stupid-happy to see him getting attention that isn’t negative.
“Oh gee I sure like war and killing things”
Which ironically is the complete opposite of every prolonged psedo-philosophical cut-scene lecture in all of the preceding games XD
Well the metal gear rising series is its own game in the same universe. Metal gear solid is still going on though. The new one mgs: Ground Zeroes, concerning naked snake is in development (though Kohima is worrying it might be too open world and mature (as in it deals with many controversial topics in its current state of development) for its own good and he expressed worry over whether it would release
Wow, I thought that the whitesnake quip from panel 1 had to be the highlight of this s, and then you brought the Robocop gold. This is an awesome strip.
I know of a cyborg who gets all his energy from drinking cola, so I suppose beer shouldn’t be so bad for them either.
If I recall correctly, he can consume food, he just doesn’t need to do so.
Is this in any way playing homage to King of the Hill ?
I also never had a problem playing as Raiden. MGS 2 was my intro into the series anyway. With all the other weird shit in that game, Raiden didn’t stand out for me at all as being out of place. It wasn’t until much later that I realized people didn’t like him as a main character.
We’ll go with Futurama logic.
They run on alcohol. The beer is actually great for them.
I’ll go for that. :D
Pan to the left a bit more and you’ll see Inspector Gadget going “Man, I tell you what.”
Don’t be sad Robocop, you still got your teeth.
Frankie from One Piece is powered by soda, though. Close enough?
Hey, if Franky can be powered by cola, why can’t other cyborgs be powered by beer?
As long as one of them ain’t powered by bubble tea…
That would make Kratos “flip his shit”.
Oh right, English One Piece got Four-Kids’d. Franky runs on ‘Soda’.
Uhh.. actually it’s always been actual cola, to the best of my knowledge, even in the original Japanese. The subtitled versions I’ve seen haven’t shied away from openly depicting sake and beer, so it wouldn’t make sense for them to refer to cola as well as merely a euphemism for some other drink.
That’s 4Kids vs Funimation vs fansubbing differences. I don’t think 4kids made it to Skypeia, let alone Water 7.
well Q the robot was powered by tea (Armed and Dangerous before Lucas Games got a cease and desist order from on high to stop working on anything not star wars)
In the MGDMT version of the King of the Hill intro, it’s Jared who crashes his bike.
Yup…Yup…Yup. (Wait I think we are missing one.)
Like someone suggested above…..Inspector Gadget?
Seeing this comic, I’d been relentlessly struck by the idea of Robocop as Boomhauer… but yeah, I’ll agree with the above comments. Inspector Gadget would make that role even funnier.
Thanks for the hilarity, Coelasquid!
i wound say that the inspector is Bill. Raiden is Dale. Robocop is Boomhower, and I guess for today The Captain is playing the role of hank.
Don’t you guys no anything Murphy runs of JUSTICE……and applesauce.
So hey! Coelasquid are we ever gonna see Simon Belmont again?He grew that new super manly head. and the Scottish accent it seems to have come with deserves a “Manly Guys” explanation.
I think I could get behind being cybernetic, so long as it could be done in such a way that I would never have to take a shit again.
Woah, Robo, time to switch to baby food.
Oh my god. The punchline fucking KILLED ME. Last thing I was expecting. Comedy gold.
Anyone who has ever seen Ghost in the Shell knows cyborgs can drink beer. They are even better at it (or worse depending on how you look at it) since they can filter the alcohol out of their system to sober up in seconds.
hehe, perhaps Coela could have added Bato as a fourth?
yeah, I could kinda see him fitting in there somewhere.
So does this mean that Robocop shaves his face most meticulously every morning?
So, King of the Hill Flashbacks. Commander’s Hank, Robocop’s Bill, Raiden’s Dale.
Dammit, I was beaten to the punch, lol
http://wallpaperswa.com/thumbnails/detail/20121020/beers%20futurama%20cartoons%20bender%20homer%20simpson%20the%20simpsons%201280×800%20wallpaper_wallpaperswa.com_25.jpg duuh :D
Well this just made my entire month. :D What I love about Raiden is that his entire character was meant to be a parody, a joke, like smudged mascara after a barfight–gorgeous, but horribly messed up. He always reminded me of some kind of 80’s rockstar… I love this.
..Wait a sec… Squid, what happened to the last week strip? The February 25th??
Commander = Hank Hill
Raiden = Dale Gribble
Robocop = Bill Dauterive
Now read it in those voices.
Is the background supposed to be like King of the Hill, with the dudes drinkin’ beers in front of a fence?
Can I just say that I love this comic? You present things like this, where it’s appearance, and normally it’d be a joke about his hair looking girly or something, but the Commander just takes it in stride and is completely understanding. I love the hell out of it.
You know, I laughed really hard at this for a good moment before I stopped and thought it made a disturbing amount of sense. Dealing with a loss of most of your body like that, you’d cling to what’s normal.
That said, I honestly do enjoy Raiden as a character. It’s one thing to stick with a character you know, but to stick your neck out as a storyteller and go with somebody very different is a huge risk. Kojima did just that in MGS2, so I felt that I had to try to give Raiden a chance. After playing it a couple of times (and before even thinking about postmodernism or deconstruction in relation to the game) I decided that the main fault that players had with it was teasing us with an intro of Snake. Had that not happened, Raiden might not have been so opposed by many players.
I found him to be a wonderful look into the dangers of child soldiers even after receiving treatment. Some very good subtlety there, with far less sledgehammering than Kojima usually relies upon. That these carried over into 4 and into his own spinoff was a point of joy for me.
Even if I have a few… issues with Revengance, I’m still pleased with how he got his own game. Even moreso that it’s being received so well. The chin gag alone had me laughing; a wonderful brick joke that you didn’t even realize was being set up.
Also, kudos to Commander for understanding and accepting so readily. Just more evidence that I like your version of manly.
I am strongly reminded of the Four Yorkshiremen sketch.
Have you noticed that the Commander is standing around with two naked dudes?
Hooray comic!
Funny how much this reminds me of this comic as well. XD MUST PROTECT THE ONLY CUTE PART LEFT.
King of the Hill…
Im feeling a king of the hill segment here…
Well that improbably perfect haircut is explained, still waiting for the reason Leon’s hair cannot be messed up
Major from Hellsing eats almost every time you see him in OVA and manga I think too. He’s a cyborg.
well the robocop cartoon had him eating and drinking oddly.
Usually when it comes to eating and drinking, the authors say that the food is still used by the body as “organic fuel” and just to avoid the whole drunk thing the alcohol is metabolized faster or is not absorbed by the cyborg’s bloodstream. there was something about it in one of the Ghost in the Shell books, I think it was the first manga.
yeah, i remember something similar explaining why you got nano energy from eating in deus ex
It takes a badass to topple bad guys.
It takes the most badass of all to talk about appearances and say anything reminding “love” in the middle of a manly men without anyone giving glares to him.
Is this a King of a Hill references? You know, drinking beer by your backyard while talking about pointless shit?
And yes, Raiden is a nothing more than a Anime cliche but Snake is a Action Movie cliche which is why we love him. Raiden’s only problem was that he was expected to take Snakes place in MGS2 which is completely bat-shit.
I love how totally not-stereotypical the Commander is. He’s just taking this all in stride.
I didn’t like Raiden when I was introduced to him because he was basically Kojima’s version of a bait and switch in MGS2. In MGS4, he got a bit better but it was still a long road ahead for him to recover. Metal Gear Rising Revengance Raiden is what I should have seen Raiden be in both MGS2 and MGS4. They really channeled Raiden’s inner “Jack the Ripper” into this game.
You know, it’s a sad day when I can honestly say the following too:
“The new Raiden is WAY cooler than the new Dante.”
Man, Crapcom just ruined Dante…
He also did that as to have an outside PoV of solid snake
See this is why I love you Coelasquid. You can draw awesome buff manly dudes AND gorgeous pretty dudes and still make em look like they came from the same world.
I bet Robocop has astounding dental hygiene.
YAY! Raiden is manly!
I’m incredibly prejudiced towards Raidens favor due to the fact that MGS2 was my first metal gear game. He didn’t feel out of place compared to Snake for me because of this. To be honest though, even AFTER playing all the other Metal Gear Solid games I still have Raiden from MGS2 as my favorite protagonist, followed very closely by “Big Boss” from MGS3.
I also to this DAY find it quite disturbing that the majority of MGS fans cannot feel empathy with Raiden for the absolute metric FUCKTON of SHIT he goes through in MGS2. I also adore Quinton Flynns voice over work for Raiden.
Everyone seems to bleat out the same complaints over and over about Raidens character “waaah he’s not manly and badass like snake”, “waah he’s an anime knock-off”, “waah his girlfriend is annoying!” and “waah he whines and complaines so much!”
The one about his girlfriend irritates me the most, she wasn’t designed to be a comforting character people!
By that logic, Robocop should have a fucking beautiful smile.
He keeps his teeth in good shape.
Raiden is actually completely awesome. I’m pretty over the “he sucks because he’s pretty” or “he sucks because I wanted to be Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid 2” arguments. We all wanted to be Solid Snake in MGS2, but that’s over now. I wanted MGS3 to not have a horrible James Bond theme song, I did not get what I wanted either.
I love how deliberately creepy Raiden looks in the opening of Metal Gear Rising: Worst Subtitle Ever (seriously – Revengance? What?). It’s a freaking plot point that he looks incredibly off-putting and Uncanny Valley. That’s awesome.
Bender burns beer as his power source maybey it is a backup power system for them
My spouse: “Hey! The Commander has fluffy hair, too!”
Me: “Wha…”
Spouse: “Look at him! He has fluffy, bleached blonde hair and fluffy, dyed blonde mutton chops! And his eyebrows.”
Me: “They are very fluffy, but there not dyed.”
Spouse: “Look at his chest hair. It’s black. The Commander must spend hours dying them.”
Me: <>
Speaking as someone who sleeps in the same bed as a natural blond with dark chest hair, your spouse has a very narrow familiarity with the subject matter.
Freddie W did parody on Raiden, and it made me think of you (and specifically this page): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJckIFWFR0
i REALLY respect raiden, because, lets face it. with all the horrible things that have happened to him, he still keeps going. he tried to infiltrate Area 51 and rescue sunny, got captured and experimented on like a plaything? hell with that, he broke out and rescued sunny anyway! gets his arm pinned under rubble, and snake is in trouble? he didn’t like that arm anyway! he is on the verge of a mental breakdown, and isd slaughtering his way through an entire army? he STILL makes a point of speaking to sunny in his “nice” voice and being friendly with this kid who idolizes him. what is his personal berserk button? people hurting kids!
You know who needs to appear in this comic sooner or later?! SENATOR ARMSTRONG!! Talk about badass manly crazy mofos.
Raiden is fuckin’ ace. Though I think I prefer Jetstream Sam… ah, Revengeance. Its soundtrack inserted itself into my list of top fave things to listen to on the way to work.
So you mock Dante and praise Raiden? I really wonder what is wrong with you…
Always liked Raiden. Even when he was slipping on seagull doody, and running around Arsenal Gear bare-ass naked. Even as a breakdancing spine-eating murder-borg he’s still an adorable doof.
I don’t get it… You make fun of dantel and you think raiden is manly? I’m speechless
Dante*
I draw what I want.