My flawed understanding is that Rock just came out of a divorce and a period where he wished he could set women on fire with his eyes, and Jones appears to be very commitment adverse as well.
So it is still in that Schrödinger’s relationship phase for the foreseeable future.
Hey, all the physical tenderness and ideological understanding, without sexual tension or emotional drama? I needed one of those badly when I got a divorce, it’s a very nice arrangement
You know that one couple that always say “we’re not in a relationship”, “We don’t wanna put a lable on it” or “we just have fun and like being around each other!” despite clearly doing about everything a couple does? Yeah that’s them ;)
I know a couple who does that, but it’s because one of the participants had a childhood that put her off formal marriage entirely. Jerry Springer/fundamentalist stuff from the bits I’ve heard, a real mess.
I have a set of friends who were like that for years. Lived together (albeit with two separate rooms), never seemed to talk about other people they were dating, took vacations together, etc. Finally out of the blue they announced they were officially a couple. I think sometimes it just takes time for people to get comfortable with the idea of not being single even though they so obviously aren’t.
According to the comic when she met Angel, they do stuff together so they know they won’t wind up going home with some creep, and Rock is not at all ready to get another wife.
Friends with benefits – not the usual meaning of the term, but more they’re friends who see the benefit in being close. They’ve kissed in at least one comic, spent time decently intimate such as in this one, but neither one wants anything more at this time. It’s a nice platonic couple.
He promised her the mammoth because she stuck with him when he had to deal with that Nomura Syndrome problem. Jonsey climbed a cliff with him & one-shotted the mini-boss confrontation with a crossbow.
I think Jonsey just has a different way of showing her level of “commitment.” She’s there when it counts, but she loathes the idea of “putting it on paper” in a way that can be legally enforceable…And considering the Commander’s recent divorce, he’s just fine with that level & can reciprocate it.
His expression in that comic is perfect, too… it says “I think we both like what we’ve got but I could get murdered if I answer this question wrong, so I hope she answers instead”
Basically: they like each other, they’re open about their feelings, but they mostly just hang out rather than “dating”. Neither is really in the market for a steady commitment, but they also want to be honest to each other. Also, if something comes that leads to Poor Decisions (too much time at the bar, super krunk party, etc.), they know what they’re getting into with each other as opposed to finding out the other party is some kind of creep in the morning.
They seem to be going at about Harvest Moon speed, not Fire Emblem speed. Just spend time together, take it easy, don’t rush or force things, and let things happen at their own pace.
I figure it is the relationship equivalent of two people floating around in a pool without really adjusting direction. Sometimes they may bump in to each other and do more active stuff, but the rest of the time just being around to find camaraderie in laziness is enough.
I dunno, that probably has the highest chance of killing their relationship. You HAVE seen how Jones lives, right? The most probable results would be either her living habits causing Rock to break up with her, or he’d go all Strict Dad on her (making her clean up after herself and all that) and she’d leave out of annoyance.
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss fluff! Never pointless! More fluff! I love this!!!
Like seriously, I love getting to see stuff like this because it shows that there is an actual connection between characters, plus one of my favorite things is seeing big tough looking dudes being sweethearts. Snuggly bear men are the best.
Just popping in to ask you to relax if you’re overworked, if you were to update half as often I for one would be twice as happy whenever it actually did happen.
Yeah, this is one of my favorite comics, but if you need to take a month to either focus on your main job or to build a buffer so you have breathing room, that’s fine. No one benefits if your hands walk out on you.
And mute anyone who complains about the time off, you don’t need their stress.
Yeah, this comic really is just a hobby for you & life has a way of interrupting hobbies. If you can take a bit of a break from it when you *have the choice* then you’re more likely to want to come back to it when life settles down a bit. But if you let everything build to the point where you *don’t* have the choice, you’d be less likely to *like* doing it later.
Don’t burn out & don’t fade away! Take time to put out the fires if you need to…Most (if not all) of us would be willing to wait, if we have some idea if you’ll still be coming back.
Everyone who says this doesn’t understand the wave of harassment I get even when my comic is a couple days late. “So just block them” cool, I still have to hear it before I block them.
I’m gonna say this much, if this comic ever ends up on Hiatus it is more likely than not I will never pick it up again.
This is an unfortunate fate of all internet content producers. Try to think of the negative feedback you receive as validation of success. It means you’re winning because you’re a large enough target to be trolled/flamed/complained to or about. Living in obscurity you wouldn’t ever hear anything at all which I think for an artist is probably the worst of all. Please know that you have created something wonderful that many are avidly enjoying.
TLDR Haters gonna hate, drink their tears and keep kicking ass.
Oh yeah, I understand the wave of complaints alright. There’s going to be complainers, no matter what endeavors you accomplish. As the saying goes, “nobody cares what storms you’ve weathered, they just want to know if you brought the ship into port.” Well, be assured that not everybody acts that way; those who do complain have no sense of empathy for people.
Just remember that no one has any “entitlement” to your *free* comic here. Those complainers are just that…Complaining. You owe them nothing & they should actually be grateful that you’ve so consistent for so long, regardless of the troubles you’ve been going through.
There are other options besides going on hiatus from this comic too; slowing down to once every 2 weeks as you work on sorting out other things isn’t the same as stopping; after all, you chose to make this a free comic, even though you still have to do others things to pay the bills. As always, the choice or decision is *yours* to make, not the complainers.
But as the adage goes, “writers write, painters paint, sculptors sculpt, artists draw.” It’s what they do. The most celebrated creators through history have been this way & you’re in good company with your dedication.
That really blows but I can understand it. I’ve been reading webcomics for years and even managed forums for a few before other forms of social media took off making them kinda void. The fans have just grown more and more impatient as time goes on. As if the creator owes them every update perfectly or they could die.
I’ve seen way too many creators drop projects due to this bullshit and it makes me sad. So many stories will never have real endings because people as usual were assholes. :(
My suggestion for that, a limited allowable time for comments. Post a comic, comments can be made for a week or two, then it closes. So you don’t get people going back in time and spamming up all your comics because they’re mad they don’t get their free fix. Works for curtailed.
I’ve considered it seriously, with the number of times I’ve had new people do an archive binge and try to get the last word in on a dozen conversations that ended six years ago.
I already appreciate this comic, but I’ve been paying a bit of attention to the twitter sidebar, so I know you’re also really busy, which makes me appreciate it even more. This is great
You do what you have to, Coe. If you need to take a break, then go take a fuckin seat, please don’t overwork yourself and get hurt!
We’ll still be here.
Sure, I’ll be sad if there’s no updates for a week, but if you need a break then take a break! Just please don’t do like Hannah is not a boy’s name or BoxerHockey and disappear with no warning and never come back, pls. I ♥ you
Totally unrelated to this page, but I can’t help noticing the Trump ads on the site recently. I find that very ironic considering he’s so representative of the kind of big-mouthed false bravado this comic likes to make fun of. Definitely not a follower of the Bran-Dao.
I’m not sure why Jojo has Trump ads in the rotation but I know the ads people get are based on their own stored cookies, mine are always Jetpens and Motorcycle gear.
The overcompensating bravado and is always funny, but stuff like this and Rock spending time being a dad are always my favorite things. It’s nice to see him in his natural habitat every once in a while after weeks/months of being the eerily calm eye of a macho hurricane.
Fun story about Black Mold:
The NIGHT BEFORE we moved back to college, everyone in my building got a surprise email at 8:00 pm that our building was infested with black mold and we were being evacuated to a hotel off-campus until they could clear it all out. It was fun. Not. Very not.
First off: awesome comic! I’ve been reading this for a few days now and I love all the main cast already. :) The Commander especially is an awesome mix of a cool, open-minded guy, perfect Dad and gruff soldier. Amazing.
Now, what urged me to comment was the notion that YOU’RE A WASTELANDER? :D Should’ve guessed from those survival game stirps… Greetings from Northern Europe! I found out about the WW in the 2014 and almost ended up taking a long holiday on 2016 to SoCal with the intention of visiting there in-between other interesting places, but then I ended up traveling in central Europe in the summer instead. It’s all cool though, I joined a faction in the OldTown Festival and got to satisfy all my post-apocalyptic urges there (check it out if you haven’t, it’s a mix of WW and LARP – basically 7 days of WW, but in a different setting and with more chanse of getting robbed, maimed or killed).
Even adult molds like their bedtime stories.
But even black mold should learn to fend for itself. Jonsey can’t expect to keep the apron strings tied forever.
You’re an ultra-marathon comic artist.
Rock is a bulky, hulky, sweet macho man.
And the Mold CAN tuck itself in. Just ask Fred from GPF comic.
HOLY CRAP!! I haven seen that comic mentioned in like forever……Fook is my favorite!
Fook who?
Are they in a relationship or what? Im genuinely curious
My flawed understanding is that Rock just came out of a divorce and a period where he wished he could set women on fire with his eyes, and Jones appears to be very commitment adverse as well.
So it is still in that Schrödinger’s relationship phase for the foreseeable future.
At least they both seem perfectly fine with that arrangement!
Hey, all the physical tenderness and ideological understanding, without sexual tension or emotional drama? I needed one of those badly when I got a divorce, it’s a very nice arrangement
Good luck with that.
I believe the answer is “yes, but casual’.
You know that one couple that always say “we’re not in a relationship”, “We don’t wanna put a lable on it” or “we just have fun and like being around each other!” despite clearly doing about everything a couple does? Yeah that’s them ;)
I remember one couple in Baltimore that was doing that for 12 years.
Before I left town, they were in the process of buying a house.
I know a couple who does that, but it’s because one of the participants had a childhood that put her off formal marriage entirely. Jerry Springer/fundamentalist stuff from the bits I’ve heard, a real mess.
I have a set of friends who were like that for years. Lived together (albeit with two separate rooms), never seemed to talk about other people they were dating, took vacations together, etc. Finally out of the blue they announced they were officially a couple. I think sometimes it just takes time for people to get comfortable with the idea of not being single even though they so obviously aren’t.
According to the comic when she met Angel, they do stuff together so they know they won’t wind up going home with some creep, and Rock is not at all ready to get another wife.
http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/way-to-put-them-on-the-spot-angel
Friends with benefits – not the usual meaning of the term, but more they’re friends who see the benefit in being close. They’ve kissed in at least one comic, spent time decently intimate such as in this one, but neither one wants anything more at this time. It’s a nice platonic couple.
Not to mention Rock killed and cooked a mammoth for her: They may be platonic, but things are getting really close now.
I like your definition of getting really close. Killing and cooking a mammoth is really just one step shy of an engagement ring.
Pretty sure killing and cooking a mammoth for someone counts as a proposal under caveman law.
Yeah, you can’t simply *share* your mammoth unless you *really* like each other. It’s related to the Territorial Instinct…
He promised her the mammoth because she stuck with him when he had to deal with that Nomura Syndrome problem. Jonsey climbed a cliff with him & one-shotted the mini-boss confrontation with a crossbow.
I think Jonsey just has a different way of showing her level of “commitment.” She’s there when it counts, but she loathes the idea of “putting it on paper” in a way that can be legally enforceable…And considering the Commander’s recent divorce, he’s just fine with that level & can reciprocate it.
I assumed they’re hooking up off-camera. I dunno.
His expression in that comic is perfect, too… it says “I think we both like what we’ve got but I could get murdered if I answer this question wrong, so I hope she answers instead”
It’s more of a thing where if they both go to the bar, they don’t have to worry about going home with a creep.
I mean, they were basically saying if they hook up with each other they both know what they’re getting into.
This is pretty much how I ended up getting married….
Basically: they like each other, they’re open about their feelings, but they mostly just hang out rather than “dating”. Neither is really in the market for a steady commitment, but they also want to be honest to each other. Also, if something comes that leads to Poor Decisions (too much time at the bar, super krunk party, etc.), they know what they’re getting into with each other as opposed to finding out the other party is some kind of creep in the morning.
Aww :) Is this a first for them?
I assume relationship stages will gradually progress on the grounds it’s slightly easier than the alternatives.
They seem to be going at about Harvest Moon speed, not Fire Emblem speed. Just spend time together, take it easy, don’t rush or force things, and let things happen at their own pace.
That’s a strangely beautiful metaphor.
I figure it is the relationship equivalent of two people floating around in a pool without really adjusting direction. Sometimes they may bump in to each other and do more active stuff, but the rest of the time just being around to find camaraderie in laziness is enough.
This may actually be my second favourite one so far, right after Jared beating down all the pokemon with Mr. Fish
Er, did you mean “beating down” or “eating down?” There was that time that Jared took Mr. Fish to the Pokemon Park…
He beat them with Mr Fish when Mr Fish was still a Magicarp.
The beatdown was the one I was referring to. The time at the pokemon park was pretty magical too though.
LASER FISH.
I kinda hope this leads up to her moving in with Rock.
I can see her wanting to bring her black mold with her.
It could live with the millipede.
and the housebroken fire
They should all get along rather well when the Commander’s kids come visiting.
I dunno, that probably has the highest chance of killing their relationship. You HAVE seen how Jones lives, right? The most probable results would be either her living habits causing Rock to break up with her, or he’d go all Strict Dad on her (making her clean up after herself and all that) and she’d leave out of annoyance.
All they have to do is time travel back to before the mess starts to build up each time ;p
That doesn’t erase the feelings you developed.
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss fluff! Never pointless! More fluff! I love this!!!
Like seriously, I love getting to see stuff like this because it shows that there is an actual connection between characters, plus one of my favorite things is seeing big tough looking dudes being sweethearts. Snuggly bear men are the best.
Just popping in to ask you to relax if you’re overworked, if you were to update half as often I for one would be twice as happy whenever it actually did happen.
Seconded. Your work ethic is frankly amazing, but you seem pretty swamped right now.
Yeah, this is one of my favorite comics, but if you need to take a month to either focus on your main job or to build a buffer so you have breathing room, that’s fine. No one benefits if your hands walk out on you.
And mute anyone who complains about the time off, you don’t need their stress.
Yeah, this comic really is just a hobby for you & life has a way of interrupting hobbies. If you can take a bit of a break from it when you *have the choice* then you’re more likely to want to come back to it when life settles down a bit. But if you let everything build to the point where you *don’t* have the choice, you’d be less likely to *like* doing it later.
Don’t burn out & don’t fade away! Take time to put out the fires if you need to…Most (if not all) of us would be willing to wait, if we have some idea if you’ll still be coming back.
Everyone who says this doesn’t understand the wave of harassment I get even when my comic is a couple days late. “So just block them” cool, I still have to hear it before I block them.
I’m gonna say this much, if this comic ever ends up on Hiatus it is more likely than not I will never pick it up again.
Man, fuck those people
This is an unfortunate fate of all internet content producers. Try to think of the negative feedback you receive as validation of success. It means you’re winning because you’re a large enough target to be trolled/flamed/complained to or about. Living in obscurity you wouldn’t ever hear anything at all which I think for an artist is probably the worst of all. Please know that you have created something wonderful that many are avidly enjoying.
TLDR Haters gonna hate, drink their tears and keep kicking ass.
Oh yeah, I understand the wave of complaints alright. There’s going to be complainers, no matter what endeavors you accomplish. As the saying goes, “nobody cares what storms you’ve weathered, they just want to know if you brought the ship into port.” Well, be assured that not everybody acts that way; those who do complain have no sense of empathy for people.
Just remember that no one has any “entitlement” to your *free* comic here. Those complainers are just that…Complaining. You owe them nothing & they should actually be grateful that you’ve so consistent for so long, regardless of the troubles you’ve been going through.
There are other options besides going on hiatus from this comic too; slowing down to once every 2 weeks as you work on sorting out other things isn’t the same as stopping; after all, you chose to make this a free comic, even though you still have to do others things to pay the bills. As always, the choice or decision is *yours* to make, not the complainers.
But as the adage goes, “writers write, painters paint, sculptors sculpt, artists draw.” It’s what they do. The most celebrated creators through history have been this way & you’re in good company with your dedication.
So yeah, I agree with RobK.
That really blows but I can understand it. I’ve been reading webcomics for years and even managed forums for a few before other forms of social media took off making them kinda void. The fans have just grown more and more impatient as time goes on. As if the creator owes them every update perfectly or they could die.
I’ve seen way too many creators drop projects due to this bullshit and it makes me sad. So many stories will never have real endings because people as usual were assholes. :(
That’s super shitty and I am sorry you have to deal with that.
My suggestion for that, a limited allowable time for comments. Post a comic, comments can be made for a week or two, then it closes. So you don’t get people going back in time and spamming up all your comics because they’re mad they don’t get their free fix. Works for curtailed.
I’ve considered it seriously, with the number of times I’ve had new people do an archive binge and try to get the last word in on a dozen conversations that ended six years ago.
BUT THAT’S MY ONLY RELEASE.
Oh heck, some of us oldsters like to archive binge too…At a certain age, memory tends to dull a bit.
I love this!
But please be careful out there!
***WARNING: SHIPPING LEVEL CRITICAL***
Okay, the red name in comparison to all the black ones makes this.
hahaha, red names just means you put in a website link when you filled out the comment form.
It’s still pretty funny in this case, though.
Captain ,she can’t take it, o god she’s going to blow!!!
Well yes, that was the goal.
Her black mold… his free range fire…
Between what’s left I’m sure there’s most of a house between them.
I love that even filler fluff comics are fun, interesting, and add some depth to your characters <3
I should go..
Baby it’s mold outside
I’ve got to go read
Baby it’s moldy outside
My Black Mold will start to worry
Beautiful, what’s your hurry?
Aspergillus will be pacing the floor
Listen to the fireplace roar
I don’t know why this reminded me of Christmas songs… Maybe it’s the heat wave…
It’s a pity there’s no upvote button here, because that was worth one.
Agreed
I already appreciate this comic, but I’ve been paying a bit of attention to the twitter sidebar, so I know you’re also really busy, which makes me appreciate it even more. This is great
I like the colors.
Is that moonlight? Television? Nighttime in the chrome-y indeterminate space future?
*Heart emojis*
shipping so hard right now
SCREECHING MADLY
Not pointless to me. I love this! <3
I really like the look on her face in the last panel.
You do what you have to, Coe. If you need to take a break, then go take a fuckin seat, please don’t overwork yourself and get hurt!
We’ll still be here.
Sure, I’ll be sad if there’s no updates for a week, but if you need a break then take a break! Just please don’t do like Hannah is not a boy’s name or BoxerHockey and disappear with no warning and never come back, pls. I ♥ you
Almost forgot that these two were dating.
I guess its cute…reading the black mold bedtime stories.
Couple of guest comic weeks so you can sleep a little bit?
Totally unrelated to this page, but I can’t help noticing the Trump ads on the site recently. I find that very ironic considering he’s so representative of the kind of big-mouthed false bravado this comic likes to make fun of. Definitely not a follower of the Bran-Dao.
I’m not sure why Jojo has Trump ads in the rotation but I know the ads people get are based on their own stored cookies, mine are always Jetpens and Motorcycle gear.
Anyway, I’ve written to Hiveworks to see if they can keep the Trump ads off my site.
I hope I wasn’t misconstrued as implying you were directly involved in what ads are displayed, I really did just find it amusing.
Thank Ra I have adblocker – I’d smash my computer after seeing too many of those.
I think most of us do, but I’ve got mine disabled on all of the webcomics I follow.
Same here, as well as on youtube and a few other sites where the artists depend on ad revenue.
Now that’s the kind of cool mod service I appreciate! :D
(PS: My ad got to be for Hebrew National Hotdogs lol.)
Eh. I’d’ve said “sure, I’ll take your money.”
I’m receiving confusing signals’ere, Batman.
IT’S SO FLUFFY
IT’S SO FLUFFY I COULD DIE
I love their relationship. <3 I wish I had something like it.
This is all cute and cuddly and all, but she’s gotta feel like there’s a howitzer diggin’ into her hip.
You’re assuming he’d automatically have an erection when they’re just cuddling…
I really like sailing this ship
Snuggles! Rock looks like he’d be a great snuggler. Very comfy to flop on.
The overcompensating bravado and is always funny, but stuff like this and Rock spending time being a dad are always my favorite things. It’s nice to see him in his natural habitat every once in a while after weeks/months of being the eerily calm eye of a macho hurricane.
Snuggle buddies!
I’m having a shitty week, so pointless fluff is welcome, thank you.
This is absolutely adorable! I hope she stays.
I love how much bigger than her he is and she’s not a small girl. Big guys rock. I dated a bunch of skinny guys then a big one. I married the big guy.
You oughta do something about the ads on your website :|The whole page barely even loads if I turn off adblocker.
This makes me happy :D
Fun story about Black Mold:
The NIGHT BEFORE we moved back to college, everyone in my building got a surprise email at 8:00 pm that our building was infested with black mold and we were being evacuated to a hotel off-campus until they could clear it all out. It was fun. Not. Very not.
First off: awesome comic! I’ve been reading this for a few days now and I love all the main cast already. :) The Commander especially is an awesome mix of a cool, open-minded guy, perfect Dad and gruff soldier. Amazing.
Now, what urged me to comment was the notion that YOU’RE A WASTELANDER? :D Should’ve guessed from those survival game stirps… Greetings from Northern Europe! I found out about the WW in the 2014 and almost ended up taking a long holiday on 2016 to SoCal with the intention of visiting there in-between other interesting places, but then I ended up traveling in central Europe in the summer instead. It’s all cool though, I joined a faction in the OldTown Festival and got to satisfy all my post-apocalyptic urges there (check it out if you haven’t, it’s a mix of WW and LARP – basically 7 days of WW, but in a different setting and with more chanse of getting robbed, maimed or killed).