You’ll like it if you think Expendables, Chicago, Alice in Wonderland, and One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest have potential being the same movie
March 28, 2011
12:00 am
I enjoyed Sucker Punch quite a bit. I think it’s a shame that so many people made up their minds that they weren’t going to like it before it came out, because I do think it had more substance than people are giving it credit for.
Two more things:
1) Our resident tech guy Vorked and his bro SuperChalmers have their own brand new webcomic up over here for your viewing pleasure.
2) I was invited to attend JohnCon in Baltimore the weekend of April 9th & 10th, so if you’re in the area drop by and I’ll scribble something for you.
Discussion (355) ¬
That’s an interesting attitude towards what the facts of life are.
Hm…Sucker Punch and Batman…
Sequel?
I am THE Batman fan (obviously) and I know what sequels do to Batman. That’s right I’m pulling the Clooney-Card! And Dark Knight is too awesome to be a sequel.
Soo….Batman sequels suck except for the best Batman sequel ever, which isn’t a sequel anymore by virtue of you saying so because you enjoyed it a lot? Yeah…okay.
NOOOO THE one COUNTEREXAMPLE DOES NOT EXIST!!! JUST BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY COUNTER EXAMPLE!!!!
Hello troll logic, how are you today?
First! *because I never get to do that, sorry*
This makes me want to see this movie all the more. Will this be the sequel?
Man I love it when people do this – it brings a flicker of warmth to my cold, stone heart.
Fail.
You look bad and you should feel bad!
In his defense, he was first as of yesterday. Someone just managed to sneak in their comments above his… somehow.
If someone hasn’t commented on the site before, I have to approve their comment so WordPress knows they aren’t a spambot. The comments in holding for review don’t show up until I approve them, so anyone who is pre-approved by WP to post comments will have theirs appear first until I approve the others.
ah… that would make sense.
but again, he thought he was first.
They don’t look very crazy to me.
Just like your average woman, sexy but with issues. And a need to fight them dragons and shit.
Movie spoilers they weren’t really crazy and the asylum was just terribly corrupt.
I don’t know, if someone imagines all those action sequences as an allegory for various thefts as part of their plan to escape… it’d wouldn’t be entirely unreasonable to wonder about their sanity.
That’s true, it could be her defense mechanism for when she’s in a traumatizing posistion(i.e., being forced to do a striptease in front of a bunch of strangers). It’s a frequently used story-telling device also for when the narrator is not meant to be fully trusted or taken seriously.
“Sucker Punch” has substance? Damn, that might put me *off* seeing it. ;)
This one is cute. “Know yer place, boy,” is funnier than the punchline at the end. I hope that this is part of a storyline. :)
Please stay excellent, Coelasquid.
Angelina Jolie must be a permanent resident.
She keeps escaping to adopt more children.
Perhaps she has her own action figure in the future, like Commander does.
Except it shoots out false adoption records and expired Visas.
Buy the special pack and you get a bunch of baby action figures of various nationalities with her.
i…want…this…NOW!
Er, I think you mean “time” in that second panel…
I kinda want to see Sucker Punch actually. Anything that has robots with bunny faces HAS to have some amount of merit to it.
Robot bunnies –> robot samurai –> robot samurai with miniguns
And SP has all three.
You can’t forget steampunk zombie Nazis.
Amen.
yeah, probably. Someday I’ll put up a strip without typos.
eh, life’s too short to make comic strips without typos. I didn’t even notice first time around.
Typos maek the world go ’round.
Yeah… and the Transformer movies had a coherent… anything the people simply overlooked.
I find more shamefuly the fact that even many nerds who should have absolutely enjoyed this, were complaining at the lack of plot. PLOT! In the movie with katanas, mecha, ninja, explosives and so on! Who needs plot in their wet dreams?
Yeah, personally I went in the theater expecting a film choc-full of eye-candy and I wasn’t disappointed.
Expecting a plot with modern movies is an exercise in futility. Although getting surprised isn’t bad every once in a while.
I feel like you don’t see many movies if you think it’s a futility to “expect plot” in them. There are good movies and there are bad movies and there are objectively fun movies, this generation is no different from any other. People just remember the bad movies of this era more because they’re still current and in our faces than the bad movies of yesteryear, which have already faded away and been forgotten.
That’s very astute of you Coela. I do not indeed partake in watching many films, especially “fun” movies as you mentioned. When I said modern films I meant modern as in “what makes studios money”. Art films and films that make you think on a level beside your maternal or primal instinct are a dying breed and not what makes money therefore are not produced as much as say your standard “tits and explosions” movies.
I just feel that the there should be meaning behind something you put that much time and effort into, like an actual art project. I should also note I am a pessimist (and quite cynical) so not expecting something great and being surprised when it actually does appeal to me makes the experience that much better. Hence my comment.
Otherwise I agree with what you are saying. Sucker Punch wasn’t horrible, but I won’t be watching it again due to a lack of interest.
You just summed up about how I ended up feeling about Skyline perfectly.
Skyline. Mixed feelings.
I hated every character, to the point of actually looking forward to their death.
But the aliens intrigued me. Between their technology (vulnerable to blunt trauma and nukes, yet apparently not affected by radiation and able to rebuild their ships in mid-air), their need for brains (which seem to wear out, as we saw a monster ‘regurgitate’ one onboard the ship), and their ultimate goals, they were interesting.
I guess we’ll never know.
Personally, I just didn’t want to be bored in between the big action sequences.
Personally, I was bored during the big action sequences. The special effects were awesome and the music choices were pretty good. The movie just failed to grab me in any meaningful way because I knew what was going to happen five minutes in. SuckerPunch started and stopped in the wrong places for me.
Personally, I thought it had more plot than I went in expecting.
Personally, Blue’s moustache gives me creeps.
I’d agree with you here, but…
Ever heard of Dragon wars? It looked really badass, so I didn’t expect any real plot.
That movie was so bad it had NEGATIVE plot.
I agree. Especially loving the seen with the evil-lookind Disney castle at the end :D
scene even- a right proper nit :s
I think the big daddies were from the bioshock video game
Ten points
On another note, I would love to see commander talking about his past and future jobs, perhaps disarming the doors as an airline steward?
Big Daddies = relevant to Airline Steward doors?
Who knows what the future may hold?
It was awesome wasn’t it? I loved it. Needed to be longer with more robots.
Everything needs more robots.
Transformers needed more robots. :/
Trufax. Transformers 1 gave me a Robofix but 2 was just “Humans with some robots on the side”
Well in my defense, the movie poster and title makes it seem like a parody. Blondes dressed as Japanese school girls fighting demonic shoguns? It comes across as male nerd pandering, and being female, I wasn’t that enticed.
As a male geek (close taxonomic relative of the common nerd), I had a similar first impression. “Oh look, yet another big budget movie trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator by cramming together all the worst aspects of geek and nerd culture. Stereotypically attractive jailbait femme fatales versus various no-name faceless threats like zombies, nazis and robots. Sounds… generic? Mediocre? Possibly even insulting or outright offensive in some ways?”
People tell me it’s not that bad. Eh. I’m of the opinion that if a movie doesn’t interest me from the trailer onward, it’s probably not much of a loss to miss it. If people afterward start telling me it really is fabulous, I’ll give it a spin, but with films like this, reviews are mixed enough that I can tell it isn’t outright good – it’s just not utterly bad is all.
To be honest, I’m sick of Hollywood. For every “watchable” film that millions and millions of dollars go into creating, there could be funding for dozens or hundreds of independent films. Or if you wanna stick to major professional productions, for every forgettable action flick that comes out of Hollywood, we could have a handful of “Amelie” level shows, a half dozen “The Man Who Planted Trees” short films, or perhaps a “Paprika” or two, easily.
~D.
I was excited for it from the trailer and I enjoyed the movie, but for different reasons. They were right, I was unprepared.
I saw the posters for the film, thought “OMG STEAMPUNK!” and automatically decided I was going to like it.
It was soooo pretttyyyyy…. <3
You sound like a man with taste.
I like that.
Woman with taste.
Actually, no, you couldn’t get a lot independent movies out of the budget of the mainstream ones. If the big studios all switched over to indie movie making, the industry would likely collapse, because only indie people watch indie movies. The lowest common denominator is still the lowest common denominator, they won’t watch ‘weirder’ movies because there’s fewer standard ones. The mainstream studios wouldn’t have so many monies to begin with if they didn’t make mainstream movies, and the mainstream movies wouldn’t earn so many if so much money wasn’t used on them (point in case: Avatar).
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You lost me at “Oh look…’
That’s exactly what I thought, until I watched it. ;)
That’s a mark of someone who wasn’t paying attention to what they were seeing. There were only a couple blondes, and only one in a schoolgirl uniform. The rest of the cast ranges from Hispanic to Asian to white girls witth different hair colours in burlesque variants of military uniforms and Expendables-esque combat getups. Each of the characters has their own theme, for the most part, and the main character’s shtick was that she looked like a little kid. As much as people say that seems like an exploitative fantasy, in the context of the movie it fit with the “you are stronger than you think you are and you need to stand up for yourself” theme that seemed to be a central pillar of the story.
I’ll put it out there too, that as much as it’s being written off as “male nerd pandering”, it wasn’t the usual “hot girls all get naked and make out and act like someone’s sex fantasy dolls”. They were combat showgirls, they throw punches and they take punches and they keep on punching. They were tough girls who carry big guns and pilot battle mechs and don’t fall apart when they take a hit. It wasn’t pandering as much as people might think, since a lot of guys seems to be disappointed that it was’t over-the-top fantasy fodder.
I was talking about the movie poster. Never saw the trailer.
There may not have been as much pandering as one would expect, but you see, the movie poster is why I expected so much in the first place. It looked to me like they were trying to capitalize on all the geek fads by cramming them into one movie. In short, I felt like they didn’t care about making a good movie. They were just trying to make a quick buck.
If it is a good movie, then what they really need is a different marketing angle.
I think it’s unfortunate that you used one poster of one character as your basis for the entire movie and the campaign they urilized for it. It may have been all you saw, but to be fair they did have plenty of posters with the girls charging into battle. It’s true a lot of it was eyecandy for guys, but as I’ve mentioned several times in these comments so far, it was like combat burlesque. If you took the showgirl fantasy angle of Chicago and replaced the fantasy musical numbers with fantasy battles agaist dragons and robots, you’d have a good idea of how this movie worked.
I can’t puff it up too much because I don’t know what your tastes are like. People are pretty divided about what they thought of it, but I enjoyed the movie.
You seriously based your entire judgement based on one poster? Considering that the marketing team has nothing to do with the movie making team, that’s a pretty silly way to make a judgement. You might as well be making your judgement based on a piece of fanart. Hell, at least fanartists have SEEN the movie, which is something most marketing teams haven’t. Posters aren’t there to tell you what the movie’s about. They’re there to tell you the movie exists. They’re even more misleading and less informative than a trailer.
And even trailers can be misleading, like the brilliant ‘The Shining as a romantic comedy’ re-edit shows. But it’s still way more credible to say ‘I saw the trailer and it didn’t seem my thing’ then ‘I saw a poster and assumed it wasn’t my thing’.
I think the biggest advertising VS content slap-in-the-face I ever had was Moulin Rouge. I ignored it because I was expecting a cut-and-dry period piece from the ads.
As one of the few Musical AND video game nerds out here, i have to ask:
Did you finally see it?!
Oh yeah, like seven years ago, it’s since become one of my favourite movies.
Have you seen the other two movies in the Red Curtain Trilogy? Moulin Rouge is definitely the best of the three, but Romeo+Juliet is fun and Strictly Ballroom was a good first venture for a director.
The only thing I really cared about in Romeo and Juliette was Harold Perrineau’s Mercutio, never seen the other one.
Heh. Thas another film I like that I never expected to as well…
I mean from the advertising I was sorta expecting some useless girly crap (and I have a reputation for hating everything)… but then I watched it and I was wearing a demented grin plasted across my face the whole time. So fun.
… Whas the other film that comes to mind right now?
Oh yeah…
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.
Loved that one too. <3
Regardless of the movie that inspired it, the term “Hot Girl Asylum” truly is a crowning achievement of the human species.
My only problem is the title of the institution.
If you needed ‘hot’ and ‘girl’ in there, that means there are… variations.
Like “Hot Boy Asylum” or “Ugly Girl asylum”
Then again, Hot Asylum just sounds weird.
Interesting take on using Big Daddies.
Now hopefully some quality fan art will come from this.
Maybe the “mech suit” versus a Big Daddy?
I just used the big daddies because this comic was supposed to go up before the movie came out, when the ads were full of shots of something that looked suspiciously like something one of them with no explanation of what its purpose was.
Main character girl with a big daddy standing beside her while the two of them face off against something. That could end up looking good.
A certain movie nerd’s comic infers that the movie is like unto Terry Gilliam’s Brazil in many ways. Is this true?
I haven’t seen Brazil, so I can’t speak for it.
Oh so you watch Movie Bob too?
I tried to like movie Bob, but I can’t hear his opinions over all the bullshit that spills out of his mouth every time he opens it.
Huh, I guess the fact that you both describe it as being “burlesque” has some extra credibility to it, then.
What if I was actually looking forward to this movie, paid money to see it, and THEN hated it?
Then you thought for yourself and formed your own opinions. My problem is the number of people I’m seeing giving reviews that they obviously made up in their heads before they even got to the theatre or who read someone’s opinion on the internet and decided it must be the gospel truth. If it didn’t live up to your expectations, I can accept that someone didn’t like something I liked, but reading reviews for it is reminding me of when Speed Racer came and and 90% of the reviewers who were slamming it were writing opinions that came across suspiciously like they had never even seen the movie, and just extrapolated some outrage from the commercials and their pent up nostalgia instead.
I’m not going to judge this movie before I see it, but it looks largely uninteresting to me. I might see it when it comes out on Netflix or something along those lines, but I don’t particularly feel like paying 10 dollars to see it.
I’m with you. The only thing that interests me is the giant robot samurai/shogun thing but I’m not going to put up with the dumb blonde or pay theater fees to see it. :/
Then don’t watch it, and don’t act like you did or that you have any opinions of the movie’s plot. That’s the kind of person I have an issue with. Even if someone summarized it for you, you’re just parroting their biases instead of making your own judgments.
I never said I didn’t want to see it. I understand that you are annoyed at people that are throwing biased opinions at this movie left and right (technically, you did the same thing with Mars Needs Moms based on the type of animation used, though I completely agree with you on that case). I just am not interested enough in this movie to pay theater prices for it. Heck, if it ever comes to a local dollar theater, I’ll be one of the first to come, just to see if it is actually worth watching.
Sorry, I just realized that I misunderstood what you were saying in that comment. I already said I wasn’t going to judge the movie before seeing it, so I’m pretty sure that it would have been safe to assume that I wouldn’t be passing on biased opinions of something I’ve never seen before. I’m not that type of person.
I loved Speed Racer. I still have friends who don’t want to see it because of the trailers. Maybe they’d hate it after seeing it, but damn it, I’d like them to at least try before mocking me when I bring it out. I haven’t seen this yet, but I’ve noticed much the same reaction to it as well. In other words, I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said Coela.
so the big daddys are going to take care of the crazy girls like little sisters?
Stop right there before you hurt yourself.
Do you have any idea how terrible that sounds?
I was interested in seeing it until the dreaded PG-13 came up on screen.
Yeah.. As much as I hate to admit it, THAT was what ruined the movie for me. It just felt so restricted by it’s rating, and plus the last bit just super pissed me off.
It was just the same thing that sucked about the end of The Watchmen. =/
I’m not sure what they could have done with an R rating to enhance the plot. Sex and nudity wouldn’t have done much besides give the guys in the audience some extra eyecandy. It certainly wouldn’t have gotten the themes and story across any better.
No, see sex would have ruined the whole thing, because they were really pushing it with all the close calls in the rape department. I just mean the actual action just seemed to really WANT to go further, it just couldn’t. Plus they had to akwardly throw in the fact that nothing they fought was actually alive? It was just too forced with the “least violent play violence possible”. Like trying to buy a toy gun and realizing you can only get one if its neon orange and made of cheap plastic.. All I wanted was one made of real metal at the very least… Maybe with some smoke caps? And real working hammer-action? I don’t ask for a whole lot..
I like your metaphor.
Also, with the Watchmen, please do Alan Moore a favor and read the comics. If you already have then I share in your disappointment at the poor adaptation when it came to key moments of the book and not just the lack of giant exploding squids.
Yeah, at the VERY least I was hoping for the giant squid… But alas, Zack Snyder gives me nothing.. Just sadface…
I risk blasphemy when I say this, I know, but the removal of the giant squid thing was a brilliant move. When reading, and I read it first, I thought it was silly. Can you imagine the raucous laughter in theaters if a giant squid exploding in downtown Manhattan was the big reveal? Even in a movie that’s constantly parading a vibrantly glowing blue schlong, one that is roughly man-sized thanks to the largeness of the screen, around in front of our faces while teaching soft-science quantum physics, giant teleporting exploding mutant cephalopods are still not acceptable as plot resolving elements.
Also, the spellchecker doesn’t recognize “cephalopods,” “teleporting,” or “schlong.” How annoying.
I honestly felt the same way. As much of a squid proponent I am, the squid very nearly ruined the story for me. It just seemed irredeemably silly, suspension of disbelief shattered. I also appreciate that they made the explosion a global tragedy with a clear antagonist, rather than one that only effected America with an ill-defined “alien invader” threat. I feel like people would realize pretty quick that the aliens weren’t really an issue and get back to the fighting within the year, with the “Doctor Manhattan will fuck you up if you don’t play nice” scheme at least it’s a clear, tangible threat. Ozymandias’s plan in the comics seemed, to me, terribly short sighted (especially for the smartest man alive), and kind of took me out of the experience.
Yeah, but the changes made in the movie were the thing that bothered me the least, even when I was much younger, the ending of the comic made me angry, not because of the silliness, but because the only person in the whole series who really deserved to live is the only person who really gets screwed over. I could care less for a happy ending, but there were so many others who should have died yet the only people who do are the only ones with any real substance or depth. I can’t stand when one-dimensional{transparent even} characters prosper, it’s just too real for me to accept in my fictional entertainment..
I believe that the throwing in of the fact that they weren’t alive into the briefing dialogue was a joke. I heard Snyder say in an interview that making the movie PG-13 was his new challenge, but apparently Warner Brothers has been pushing for more PG and PG-13 films and nixed the idea of another 300-style gore-fest. I think it was his way of giving the executives at WB the finger while still complying with what they asked. It actually amused me when the line came up because of that.
If you truly are a geek, and watch Sucker Punch, you will not care at the shitty story or plot holes it has. But you will stare in awe at the sheer epic that is 5 scantily clad women wielding blades and automatic weapons, fighting their way though trenches of nazi-steampunk-zombies, or free falling into a castle full of orcs. That movie is geek fantasy to the max!
That’s $1 for the e-jar…..
Does it matter that it was actually used as a noun instead of the overly trite adjective it has become? I’m just sayin…
I don’t believe so… *puts a dollar in the e-jar*
Sorry sir..
Definitely not as bad as the “Scott Pilgrim” movie poster that read something like “An epic of epic epicness.” That alone created an aversion to that movie so strong, I fear I will split myself in two if I have to watch it, a la Rumpelstiltskin.
Scott Pilgrim was actually a lot less bad than I expected. I just took the whole thing as a giant parody of a parody of a duck, so I think that’s what saved me.
LOL Scott Pilgrim is a really good movie but I’m biased as I read and enjoyed the comic already and didn’t care what advertising the movie had. I’ve heard from many sources though that people just looked at the posters and trailers and decided not to try it. But I really liked it, and as an adaptation of a comic it’s really good at being close to the source material while being it’s own thing.
Yeah, hot girls galavanting around is great and all, you know, IF they actually did hot girl stuff.
Like make out… Or show boobies…. Or ya know… SOMETHING.. -_-
That’s part of what I liked about it. As much as people are accusing it of pandering to male nerd fantasy it was burlesque without being exploitative or demeaning. It’s kickass girls kicking ass in showgirl combat uniforms, not hot girls just making out and getting naked for nerds to masturbate to later.
Yeah, I know. It just also shouldn’t make itself seem like that in the trailers. I personally don’t care if it doesn’t have boobies or anything but I feel like they tried to sell boobies and then left everyone hangin.
.. Plus the end was straight retarded. Other than that though, the movie was a lot of fun and I did enjoy it don’t get me wrong. But I also liked Watchmen.
It does make me feel like maybe Zach Snyder can only make awesome movies with BS endings..
300 had a proper ending.
but then again, having Frank Miller looking over his shoulder probably had something to do with that.
I don’t mean to say he MADE the movies have bad endings, I just was noting the coincidence that all the movies he happens to choose to make were written with shite endings.
That’s because the publisher and marketing people wants to sell it as nerd-bait, whether Zack Snyder made it as such or not.
Yes but it didn’t have enough plot and substance to be a story-driven movie, didn’t have enough ridiculous to be a ridiculous movie, the action was barely there at all and was very rushed so it wasn’t an action movie, and didn’t have enough sexy to be a sexy-driven movie. It kind of just fell short on all fronts that it was trying to hit. Thus proving the Native American proverb, “If you chase two{or in this case four..} rabbits, you will lose them both”
What is it about two girls making out that’s so hot?
If I go to a party and I see two girls exploring their sexuality with each other on a couch, I only see two girls who aren’t exploring their sexuality with me. Being cockblocked from two woman by each other does nothing for me.
Also, on the whole, I was happy to see a more tasteful performance by the ladies. A woman need not sell her sexuality to buy ours.
If you read my other comments you’ll realize I was more aggrivated with the fact it fell short on being a movie about anything at all than simply a lack of making out just because there were women in the film.
To be honest, two chicks just going at it isn’t really that hot, but when you advertise two girls face-to-face and then quickly cut away the scene, it leads to some assumptions.. False advertising is all I’m saying..
“If you truly are a geek, and watch Sucker Punch, you will not care at the shitty story or plot holes it has. ”
Since when did geek mean “Casual Interest?”
Aren’t geeks and nerds supposed to be the ones who care about SUBSTANCE?
Got to agree with that.
I’ve yet to see the movie, but from the way it was described it seems to be composed of nothing but trite and overused cliches, or as our beloved tvtropes calls it, the dead horse tropes.
As a geek myself, I take pride in caring about the story behind the action. I like explosions and guns, but if there’s no point to the story, if there’s not a good solid plot, then I won’t like it. Not caring about the plot and only caring about the action doesn’t mean your a geek, you’re an action-nut.
That aside, I’m not saying the movie is bad, I haven’t seen it and can’t judge, but from my experience “geeks” (myself included) care about plot.
I think net-nerds are resisting Suckerpunch because a mainstream studio is trying to directly deliver something to geeks, but they feel that it’s being forced on them rather than the preferred method of finding something obscure. (Hype-aversion)
Also I think too much advertisement can sour people on a movie, sorta like this
http://www.theonion.com/articles/time-between-thing-being-amusing-extremely-irritat,19791/?utm_source=recentnews
I second this. Some of us nerds don’t like it because it seems to pander so explicitly to our demographic that some of us consider it insulting.
I think Zack Snyder has made enough loyally adapted nerd movies that we can assume he’s a bit of a fanboy himself.
The movie’s “dream” sequences were concentrated AWESOME, and that’s what matters.
I just think the Big Daddys are really cute.
Bulky, terrifying metal death-suits really turn you on, eh?
I concur. Big Daddies, for whatever reason, were really cute to me when I was playing Bioshock and Bioshock 2. This prehistoric cephalopod masquerading as an artist (sorry, Coelasquid, but when I think of you, in my mind’s eye you’re a gigantic bone-plated squid with a glaring eye and art supplies clutched in some of your tentacles. >.>;;) really made them EVEN CUTER for me, especially around the kids, hehe.
<3 me some Big Daddies!
“Know yer place, boy.” PERFECT! Coela does it perfectly AGAIN!
I happened to love Sucker Punch. I don’t care if it was taking advantage of all the things I love in a mainstream way. Or if the plot was so barely there, Victoria’s Secrets models could have said, “Wow. Put something on, ho.”
It was all of my dreams rolled into one giant bullet-and-blade-storm. And they kill bountiful amounts of orks.
And thank you, Squiddini, for making me believe in people again. I thought I was the only one who saw the correlation between Hotness and Bat-Shit-Crazy.
Genuinely thought you were going to do a comic about Sucker Punch the move, not the movie. WELL THAT SHOWED ME
Heheh…
Broad generalization.
Glad someone mentioned it. <3
Tactical Facepalm
*Society Ragequit*
Why do I get the feeling that the Big Daddies, or at least one of them would make a great recurring character?
But then… I do kinda hope they fail.
We haven’t had Batman yet, I don’t believe.
….What would you get if you combined Batman with a Big Daddy?
Delta
Winrar is you.
Somewhere in the process, Will Smith is involved, I’m sure.
I keep hearing Sucker Punch is deeper or more thoughtful than the trailers make it look, but if that’s the case, the fact that people are forming opinions on it before seeing it means the fault lies with the marketing department and not the audience. If all the trailers and promo material presents a movie that looks like just another T-n-A KABLOOEY-SPECIAL-EFFECTS-WAHEY extravaganza like I’ve seen a thousand times before, you can’t really be surprised if I don’t want to go see it.
It’ll probably wind up in my Netflix rotation at some point, but all the underlying subtext in the world can’t save a movie that’s trying so hard to draw in the action/special effects afficianados that it ignores the rest. The right trailer can mean life or death for a film at the box office.
…well, it tried to be deeper and more thoughtful than the trailers made it look. And trying counts for something, right?
I was just about to post this sentiment as well. I’m not going to make myself feel bad for being disinterested in a movie that seemingly went out of its way to make known it wasn’t being marketed to me.
It’s fine to be disinterested in something, but I have no respect for people who go around making up opinions for a movie they haven’t seen. You have an opinion of a trailer, not a movie. And if you go into a movie dead-set that you aren’t going to like it, you probably won’t end up liking it.
I understand that sentiment and I agree. But for the moment, the opinion I have based on the trailer and the way the movie was marketed means I’m not going to spend money to see it in a theater. HD TV and Bluray on my Netflix account is fine enough for me. :) Maybe it’ll surprise me and I’ll wish I’d seen it sooner or something (it’s happened before and it’ll happen again) but right now it gets a big fat “meeeeehhh!” for my tastes.
I’d never try to convince anyone NOT to see it, and if my husband had been more interested I would have gone to see it with him. And to be clear I wouldn’t be condemning the movie even if it WAS just T&A with explosions and swords. I’d still be equally disinterested in it.
Again, my problem isn’t people with opinions about the trailer, it’s people who act like their opinions of the trailer give their uninformed opinions of the movie any kind of credibility, or who watch the movie with their mind made up that they aren’t going to like it. If people go in with and open mind and don’t like it, that’s fine, if people say they don’t want to see it because they aren’t interested, that’s fine too, I just don’t have any respect for people who read someone on rotten tomatoes didn’t like it and act like that’s their opinion.
But what if that person on rotten tomatoes had the same opinion/assumption as the reader did before reading the review? It’s one thing to form your own opinion but when x number of reviewers share your “trailer” opinion, why waste the money?
Sometimes I let reviews help me see if I’m right or wrong about a movie before seeing it. I was right about Predators being another shit reel and I never saw the film.
And I actually wanted to see Predators when I first heard about it but the more material they released put a bad taste in my mouth. By the time it was released in theaters, I was convinced it was crap and guess what? I was right. The movie was either downright garbage or just an average film that wouldn’t be average if it wasn’t for its predecessor.
I saved myself $10-$30 bucks by listening to my instincts.
I’m not sure you actually read the comment you’re replying to. It’s fine to not watch a movie because you don’t think you’ll like it, I have no issue whatsoever with that. People who read a review of a movie and act as thought they actually saw it, that was they opinion they formed of it, and use that opinion as a recommendation to others who might wish to see it are, quite simply, full of shit. For example, everyone who tells me that they didn’t like sucker punch because it was about underage blondes in schoolgirl outfits, I assume either didn’t see the movie or had already decided what they thought it was about before they got to the theatre and didn’t let a little thing like the actual content of the story dissuade them telling other people that was what they thought.
You don’t need to eat poop to know it tastes like shit.
Being that a cinematic experience isn’t fecal matter you’re contemplating ingesting, and is rather a multilayered piece of entertainment composed by different artists in different departments with different goals, your analogy is not exactly applicable.
Yeah, but you’d have to eat a food you’ve never had before to know whether or not you like it.
I find there’s nothing wrong with that mindset. As I said a strip-or-two ago, I’ve gone in to several movies with the goal of hating it and I liked it and so did several other people.
The goal of movies you’re bound to hate is to make you like them. If they can do that then they’re–at the very least–good. If they don’t then it’s the shit you thought it was.
There are far more people out there than you can imagine who make up their mind about something before they’ve actually experienced it and won’t let anything change it, they are always annoying and obstinate. It’s a problem that’s plagued humans right to the early stages of our development. It’s what the story “Emperor’s New Clothes” is about, one person decides how people are supposed to think and their audience doesn’t question it because they’re have no critical thinking skills and like to let other people make their minds up for them. Then as soon as someone challenges their opinion, they don’t have a leg to stand on because their ideas don’t have a backbone to speak of. As someone who enjoys the friendly debate now and then, and sometimes goes so far to post long opinion pieces for the sake of starting a civil exchange, I’ve got a lot of experience with people who will read the header of an essay and one or two sentences out of every paragraph and try to start fights about what they think in their head you were probably going to talk about eventually. It’s the exact same problem.
It would be nice if everyone had the open minds and critical thinking skills to change their opinions of something they’ve decided they want to be angry about, but unfortunately, quite a few don’t.
I guess we differ in that I don’t know anyone willing to waste $10+ on a movie they don’t want to see.
If you’ll read a couple of the replies in this thread, you’ll see that I’m saying I only have a problem when people don’t watch a movie and act like they did by parroting things other people told them about it. Don’t watch it, that’s fine, don’t pretend whatever you read about it on rotten tomatoes was what you thought of it.
They really ought to take the folks who mix trailers and send them to band camp; either for giving away all the jokes in the movie, or for being completely misleading about the movies’ content.
I’m inclined to believe that bait and switch was what they were aiming for. The tagline of the trailers was “you will be unprepared”, and what better way to catch someone who was expecting two hours of mindless girlie fluff off guard than by giving them something they actually have to think about?
I get the feeling that you need to see the movie to really get the joke. How dare you force this on me?
Probably not, since I did the comic to make fun of the trailer before the movie was even out.
I didn’t even know what the strip was about until I read the description.
I still found it funny.
I would love to see Batman and Jared in the same panel. I can even imagine his face saying “OMG! BATMAN!”
My friends and I have the exact opinion of Sucker Punch, it’s a shame it is getting so underrated.
…was that a reference to Barney’s Hot-To-Crazy ratio chart? XD I think “How I Met Your Mother” has its moments.
That concept existed long before the Bro Code.
I think it pre-exists modern media; The Lady of Shallot, anyone?
HA!
I enjoyed SuckerPunch personally. With a movie like that, you kind of have to go into it expecting it to be a CG filled joyride and ignore the plot (or lack thereof). I saw the movie as One Few Over the Cuckoo’s Nest + Inception + Castle Wolfenstein + LotR + Terminator myself. Not gonna lie, I freaked when they had the steampunk Nazis and the mech on a WWI battlefield. And really, the plot wasn’t that bad, it was just that some of the narration was horribly written imo.
Using Big Daddies to watch the girls tho…sounds like it has potential.
Yeah, I enjoyed the plot, there were some predictable things, but they left me guessing enough that knowing what the 5th item was going to end up being didn’t ruin it for me. A lot of things legitimately surprised me and left me wondering where the line between the burlesque fantasy and the asylum reality was drawn. There were a couple monologues that fell apart because it’s incredibly hard to write and perorm a convincing monologue, personally, I think there are very few circumstances where a character should be given one unless it’s been well thought through and motivated. The number of times they go to the side and plot directly in front of a character they’re about to try to pull the wool over got distracting as well.
I thought Sucker Punch was going to be a terrible movie, but somehow wound up seeing it, largely because a friend of mine did graphics for it.
That movie is amazing, I had no idea how dark and wonderful it would be.
Whoring yourself is the manly thing to do.
BRB, growing beard.
Every minute of it is such a moment.
Do not know about sucker punch, a friend said it was good, but he adores the resident evil movies, everything Jason Statham, and thinks the plot in machete was “kind of good”
I’m not taking my chances.
On a side note: One time one of my friends was writing “Batman” in his notebook. He’s terrible at writing, so I asked him why he needed two pages to dedicate his love for the illusive figure called “BaRman”
After laughing, someone decided to make it into a comic, putting batman behind a bar, with two-face and riddler playing poker, and jim gordon over the counter. We lolled our asses off. Things are so much more fun when in detention…
If you don’t like Jason Statham movies you might be in the wrong place…
For real.. And who DIDN’T love Machete?? That was a movie that just really had everything.
for it’s STORY. He liked it for it’s STORY.
Now, I’m as big a fan as any when it comes to big knives and large guns, but story isn’t the thing you can accuse Machete for having.
I really liked the story though, sure it was basic, sure it was a tad cliche, but what isn’t these days? Every story has been done, now it’s just variations. And at least Machete did the plot well, especially for a shoot em up.
Quote/ Every story has been done,/end quote.
You my friend are as bad as a man who looks at a purple shoe and a purple SUV. To claim that every story has been done is a poor view. Yes there are universal themes but just because a story is about a man discovering what matters in terms of reality doesn’t mean it’s always going to be the same. The worldview of those who wrote Total Recall is different than the view of the Nolan’s in writing Inception and thus they’re different stories tackling the same universal theme. Sorry it’s just that as a story teller I find arguements like yours annoying.
That’s exactly what I mean though. Every story has been told but it hasn’t necessarily been told in every way it can be told, nor has it necessarily been told as well as it can be told. I don’t mean every story is a blatant remake, but I’d be hard pressed to find a movie that doesn’t tell the same story as at least one other movie. And the same goes for books, by the way. Change as many details as you want, but no matter what your particular spin on it is, Avatar will always be Pocahontas, Forbidden Kingdom will always be Dragon Ball, which in turn will always be Journey to the West and Apocalypse Now will always be Heart of Darkness.
I think Heart of Darkness and Dragonball are poor examples because they were intentional adaptations of the stories they resemble. I think what you’re going for is something more like Total Recall VS the recent Liam Neeson movie, Unknown. Or just about any given robot movie VS Blade Runner.
Ok, those do work much better, but do you see the point I’m getting at?
Is it just me, or does that hot crazy chick look a lot like creepy-chan
“That is a full-grown womanp pullin’ off pigtails. Her crazy is off th’charts!”
My day was made, truly. :)
I haven’t seen Sucker Punch yet, but I am hanging on to my hope that it will be good in the face of all my friends saying “Blah blah movie critic blah blah horrible review BLAH”
Squid has said it was a fun movie, now I HAVE to watch it… as soon as I have money to do so.
Wait… Is this going to be a two-parter? It has that vibe. Especially necessary if Batman could show up.
And when did the Addams Family start a home for attractive women?
Why make us wait? Call Batman now!
But Batman’s a busy man. He’s not like the other guys at the agency who can’t find a normal job in average joe society. He’s the CEO of his own multi-billion dollar enterprise. Oh and also has to punch every purse snatcher in Gotham.
But Batman also has a bunch of sidekicks to do his lesser jobs for him. He has Red Robin running his company while Batman 2, Alfred, and Batgirl raise his son. No, I’m not kidding.
…Red Robin is a restaurant, I think you meant just Robin. He’s also got Night Wing, Huntress who is also a second batgirl, sort of has Catwomen… a little, and my personal favorite, NightRunner. On top of that, I’m sure I missed a few.
Batman’s got a whole possie of gadget people.
Isn’t he kind of franchising now and making Batmen in other countries? I don’t know if that French Batman has his blessing or not. I haven’t read the comic yet, I’m waiting for them to release a paperback of it.
Firstly, yes his name is Red Robin(it’s a dumb name, I know) and he used to be the third Robin, Tim Drake.
The current Robin is Bruce Wayne’s son, Damian Wayne/Al Ghul(long story short, Talia Al Ghul raped Bruce Wayne).
Nightwing is now Batman 2, he became Batman after Bruce ‘died’. When Bruce came back he was made Gotham’s Batman, so Bruce could travel the world finding new Batmen.
We are at Batgirl 4(5?) right now, Stephenie Brown. She is a more lighthearted Batgirl than the previous ones.
Also, yes, French Batman and Bruce are cool. There we are, I found a way to peddle this useless crap I call comic ‘knowledge’ and we all learned something today.
0.o I guess I’m a little out of date with the whole ‘side kick’ thing. I missed the “Battle for the cowl” and a few before that.
I had no real opinion of Sucker Punch before I went in.
I do now.
That movie is goddamn terrible, and Zack Snyder should be ashamed of himself.
I’m not sure what your problem with it was, but I thought it had more plot than I was expecting and of all the movies I’ve seen so far this year, it’s probably the one that stuck in my head and haunted me the most afterwards.
The fact that the Commander didn’t really think this plan through makes it like double-hilarious.
Ain’t that the truth about hot chicks.
LOL Brilliant
Yeah, I still don’t know what to make of that movie and I saw it opening day, I support clockwork WW1 zombies, but I think you had to focus too hard to keep a grip on what was happening the whole time….
Inception didn’t take that level of brain power to understand!
Inception wasn’t hard to understand at all, I feel like the myth that it was is another case of people deciding what they thought of a movie before they saw it.
I agree. I have hardcore ADHD that made school impossible for me even in the 3 or so cases where I was interested but I had no problem understanding Inception.
If you’ve read ANY modern SF, Inception didn’t take any brain power to understand.
…That might explain why I was able to follow it fine, but my mom couldn’t…
What’s so hard for me to understand is why it seems to take other people so much brain power to understand it.
Besides, all you need to do to figure out if the movie was just a dream like implied is to watch the top whenever it came on screen. (The only thing that stuck with me about the movie anyway was all the cute ArthurxAriadne the fandom put out.)
POTENTIAL INCEPTION SPOILER IN THIS POST
Someone pointed out once that the best tell of whether or not he was in the dreamworld was his wedding ring. He wore it in his dreams, but not in reality or vice versa.
…:D Time to go rewatch that ending!
Also I HATED Sweet Pea.
FOR REAL.
Isn’t it just straight RETARDED that the person who DIDN’T even want to leave is the ONLY one who makes it out? That’s BULLSHIT.
Yeah, that pissed me right off, “hey I know, lets save the least interesting and likable character!”
Rocket FTW!!
Not to mention the most shallow and boring..
But Rocket seriously was the best. If they really had to only let one live it should have been her.. She was the most compelling character and to be honest after she died, I kinda just didn’t even care what happened the rest of them
*Burn After Reading spoilers*
Haven’t seen that movie but I hate Burn After Reading for the same reason. I was only interested in Brad Pitt’s character but they killed him off early on. I hate nearly every other character. It doesn’t help that the nice old man got killed with a hatchet. It seems like movies that shit on viewers’ expectations automatically get the most praise. Japanese cartoons often rely on that.
Best review I’ve read of it so far:
“It was the equivalent of watching Zach Snyder ferociously masturbate with Michael Bay sitting behind him massaging his shoulders and coaching him on.
This had no characterization what so ever. All Snyder did is go for the cool factor and in doing so ripped out any kind of life this movie could have had. A huge tragedy happens at the beginning that is supposed to have weight for the whole film. But instead of directing it to actually make you feel sympathy for what happens, Snyder turn it into a music video that leaves you scratching your head about what you just saw.
All the “dancing” scenes are ripped right out of a video game. Does it matter what they are doing? No. Because Snyder seems to think as long as it looks cool it doesn’t matter. This movie is almost as fun as sitting and watching your friend play video games. And I said almost because when watching this you know you will never get a turn to play.
If this movie would have come out a year from now I would have said Snyder ripped Grant Morrison’s Joe the Barbarian off. It is the exact same concept. But where Joe the Barbarian pulls it off is letting you have sympathy for the characters and has an ending that leaves you with something to think about and has substance. I think Snyder thinks his ending has deep meaning and will move people. But all it did is make me laugh.
Seriously, don’t go see this movie. Go read Joe the Barbarian instead. Then let us all pray to the comic book gods that producers have enough sense to reign Snyder in from acting out all his wet dreams all over Superman.”
I think this was the one that best paralleled my opinions of it.
“It’s some someone explained the facts of life” = “It’s time someone explained the facts of life”?
Yeah, I typo a lot no big news. Whatever, I’ll fix it when I get home.
-Looks at name- I thought Grammar Nazis didn’t like irony…
I saw sucker punch on the weekend and enjoyed it immensely. As someone said above, looking for a plot, or “deeper” into most modern movies is an exercise in futility. In my opinion, most movies nowadays don’t have the quality to them that older movies did.
SuckerPunch was exactly what it looked like it would be… Attractive women, in fantastical settings, meant to lure the members of each fandom it touched on. Demon Samurai Junkies(my favorite in the movie) Killing Nazi’s/zombies/zombie nazi’s/robots/robot zombie’s/nazi robots/nazi robot zombies. Steampunk (worth its own awesome slot) Dragons… Orcs/Knights…For me.. it was the best hour and forty five minutes I have used up in a while…
This has now turned into a rant.. I will end with… a “ZOLTAN” salute.. and say love this comic strip.. I check it a couple times a week, just incase you sneak a second comic in :p
As I said to whoever it was up there complaining about modern movies, movies aren’t getting worse, we’re just forgetting about the forgettable ones. If every year you take the cream of the crop and discard all the stuff that flopped, when you look back it seems like we’ve got an outstanding flawless history of motion pictures. Truth is, there was just as much trite plotless crap coming out back then, people just collectively forgot about it so they could better promote the good stuff.
Well, that seals the deal. Was wondering if I should wait for it on Netflicks, but with your endorsement ringing in my ears, I’ll have to go see it this weekend.
I can’t tell you what to like, all I can say is that I did like it and add that I like a lot of different movies for a lot of different reasons.
YES YOU CAN.
I was surprised and impressed at how much more soldi the plot of Sucker Punch was than the trailers gave me a reason to believe.
That’s exactly how I felt.
Also, you can add Brazil to the list of movies that Coelasquid mentioned.
I felt the movie was just okay. Went in expecting hot girls fighting things in a manner not capable of being found in everyday life. Walked out disappointed because, even though Babydoll, and, indeed, the actress that played her, happened to be over 18 in age, I couldn’t help but think she looked about 14. I know the actress herself is attractive, but they take her natural beauty and cover it up with pink and pigtails. Take a gorgeous actress The story was very straightforward and, for the first time in my life, I almost fell asleep in a movie theatre just out of boredom.
The rest of the girls were ostensibly adult looking, I got the feeling that the point of Babydoll was just as much to promote the central theme of the film that you are strong enough to take care of yourself as it was to look hot for guys who are into women who look like schoolgirls. The more pathetic and childlike she can appear when she shows up, the more significant a transformation it becomes when she takes contol and starts kicking ass.
Fair enough. It just kind of put me in a fuck.
The only thing I found confusing was when the burlesque world and the Asylum blurred near the end.
How did she react to what Blue did to the others?
In the Burlesque world it was only a few minutes between what happened and the fifth item thing. Was it days outside of that?
It was confusing, but it’s what had me lying awake thinking about the movie days after I saw it.
That statistic…I believe I heard that on an episode of ‘How I Met Your Mother’.
:U Doyouwatchthatshow,madam?
If so, that is cool
I don’t, I have read the Bro Code, but that fact-of-life was being perpetuated loooong before How I Met Your Mother.
Hrm. Y’know, the only reason I didn’t want to see this movie was that every woman in the cast had insanely huge amounts of makeup available despite being in an Insane Asylum. I guess now we know why hollywood asylums never have the money to rennovate the old, creepy interiors.
But this kind of makes me want to see it.
The majority of the story actually happens in a burlesque house.
Now that makes more sense. Must be a really run-down one to be able to afford all that stuff, though.
Sucker Punch was terribly simple and trite. Beyond that, it was made of angst, make-up, and way too much slo-mo, so I’m going to have to disagree with you. I tried to like it, really I did, but I came in expecting something stupid and fun, and the terribly dark/ edgy seriousness of the movie made the awesome action scenes not worth the trouble.
Also I don’t think Jared has the chops to handle this assignment.
People are free to disagree with me, obviously I got something different out of it than you did. My only problem is the people who slam it without seeing it or write up reviews they obviously decided on before they got to the theatre. No one I disrespect more than people who just think things the internet told them to.
You know, I actually loved the movie because it was /nothing/ like what I expected.
-cackles- I still laughed my ass off at this comic, though. Fab, as always~
No one mentions the typo in the second box?
“I think it’s some someone…”
I believe you meant to say “it’s TIME someone”
If by “no one” you mean “seven people”. You’re ranking up there with the people who ask “am I the only one who…” without actually giving a cursory look around to see if they are the only one.
Urm… is it bad that i instantly read it as “time someone”? Love your comics Coela… Though I was just haunted by Batman again… everywhere i go recently there is something batman related and my friend like to take the Mick outta me for an old comment i made years ago about Robin and then Bang, you mention him in your comic >.>
Haha I also didn’t notice the typo till I started reading typos, so you’re not the only one XD
wow I made a typo in my explanation . . . “I also didnt notice the typo till I started reading comments” XD
My blunder, I scanned the 200+ comments and didn’t notice someone mentioned it until after I posted.
What a hilarious misunderstanding.
you should have inspector tequila in your comic, would be cool.
If nothing else the action looked awesome and they didn’t disappoint. The storyline itself was interesting, albeit I couldn’t help wondering how things looked outside of the first level of fantasy for the sake of curiosity.
The main disappointing thing among my friends was Sweetpea never using the broadsword strapped to her back.
I can only imagine what Batman would do there though, short of feeling a kinship in some ways.
neil patrick harris’s character on how i met your mother has a convienent scale describing this effect
So the girls from that asylum are actually the Big Sisters?
I was thinking that too, ha.
If this comic is getting a continuation, crossing fingers so hard for some No More Heroes cameos.
Also I’m convinced to go try Sucker Punch. I should have known better than to decide just by trailer, I mean /Tangled/’s trailers were absolutely terrible and look at the reception on that one.
Dear lord, those Big Daddies are screwed. In more ways than one. 8D
“Would you kindly” watch these young girls at this asylum for us, Big Daddies? You see what I did there?
I want to see it but my “feminist” friends are already on my case about it. And just won’t stop. Can’t a girl just enjoy her crazy-ass chicks in peace?
I do like how you describe it though, combat-burlesque sounds like it might be everything I could want in a woman. Honestly, people just need to have a sense of humor about things anymore. I viewed the movie trailers with amusement, not a furrowed brow and cries of misogyny. Then I read some positive reviews of it and realized that it just miiight be something more besides high-powered nerdawesome.
… This isn’t to say some cries of pandering and sexism aren’t unfounded, though, we just have to look more at intentions then the finished product.
I am rambling and a cosplay deviants ad has appeared under your comment box which amuses me. Nice comic is what I’m trying to say!
If people want to get “feminist” about it, the movie is not demeaning or exploitative to the girls (beyond them being prostitutes in a burlesque house, but that isn’t worse than you get out of Moulin Rouge); there is no outright fantasy pandering like gratuitous nudity or the forced unrealistic bisexual experimentation scenes you would usually see in movies of this nature; the women aren’t treated like objects by anyone but the antagonists, who are put in their place for acting as such; and the fight scenes are on par with what you would expect to see in an average action movie. The women give hits, take hits, and keep fighting. They pilot planes and carry big guns and drive mechanized battle armour. They don’t fall apart when they take a punch, and they’ve got each other’s back’s when someone gets backed into a corner.
Add to that the fact that the unifying theme of the movie was more or less “you are stronger than you think, you have the power to take care of yourself” and you’ve got a pretty good girl-power action flick.
And the girls being prostitutes is just the way that Baby Doll is processing the abuse that Blue and his cronies in the asylum staff are perpetrating on the inmates.
(I’m trying not to spoil too much of the movie for people)
Sorry about that.
I Love Moulin Rouge!! ^o^
I approve of this comic.
I only went for the visuals since being a female I’m not impressed by girls in tiny outfits and I expected it to suck. Turns out it was awesome and I loved it. There was more depth to it than the trailers made it look like and it was very thought provoking.
And of course the visuals are enough to knock you out of your chair. Especially the WWI sequence. Pure eye candy.
I made up my mind and it can’t be changed. I want to watch it, and I will enjoy it. Hot girls in skimpy outfits kicking people’s asses. I like a good action girl saga.
As for the people that are bagging on Suckerpunch for lack of plot, they need to go look at all the oh so positive reviews of Avatar and consider why they’re belly aching.
Johncon?!… This is the first I’m hearing about such a thing… Luckily I live in Baltimore and will now be attending! Where are you setting up/ is there a place to look for you?
Scary thing is I lie in Vermont, and there IS a asylum there but no hot girls, disappointment? I think yes.
Sadly, in reality, crazy people are more creepy than hot. Or course we’re all a little crazy, which means we’re all a little creepy.
The truckload of Big Daddies makes me happy. C: I’d like to see Suckerpunch, but I’m not sure if I’ll get around to it.
i guess i should watch the movie, havent had the chance, studying at medicine school and all
The movie is only coming out here in like 2 months or so… Heh. Long live Europe!
Way to steal the Crazy-Hot-Scale, bro!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zADosF3XoQ
The joke is far, far older than How I Met Your Mother and the Bro Code. If you think that’s where it started you either aren’t very old or don’t get out much. I couldn’t even tell you the first place I heard it, it’s one of those common knowlegde comic standbys, like “does this article of clothing make me look fat” jokes.
Shades of when people were thinking the Charles Atlas parody was a Team Fortress 2 parody.
Though what mystifies me most is that people actually think How I Met Your Mother did something original.
Looks like he broke the door of the truck in the last panel. :o
Can I be one of the people that stands over in the corner, jumping up and down while whispering, “I liked this movie! The soundtrack was amazing! My greatest fantasy for two days afterwards was punching Blue in the balls!” ? I think I’m just gonna go ahead and be that person. Sucker Punch was weird, more than a little wild, and completely awesome. Probably gonna see it again this weekend.
Also, I think we need a ‘Hot Girl Asylum’ in my neck of the woods, because Ft. Lauderdale/Sunrise has some insanely hot ladies that want nothing more than to rip your heart out of your chest. Literally. And eat it. No matter your gender.
Save me ;-;
Loved the whole cuckoo’s nest-expendables-inception thing about Sucker Punch. Also, you gotta love how the lead cast is all-female and multi-racial IN AN ACTION FILM. Ha! Take THAT, Warner Bros.!
The real sucker punch for me though is that the actress playing Baby Doll played the older sister in Lemony Snicket’s A Series of Unfortunate Events. Who’da thought?
Though… can you imagine Mamma Mia’s Amanda Seyfried as Baby Doll? She was Snyder’s initial choice.
… Honestly that’d make it a better movie for my money. Just recast it all with the Mean Girls.
I had misgivings about Sucker Punch when I saw the trailers as well, but I put it down as a “It’s either going to be absolutely awesome, or absolute guano” movie. My fiancee didn’t even think it could possibly be good.
We were both very happily surprised; it’s a very good movie, and an excellent theme done in a way I found to be quite original. As my fiancee put it, the action scenes are well and beyond over the top, but they’re intentionally done so, such that it’s impossible to take them too seriously, which makes the over-the-top action all that much better. My only issue was the considerable use of japanese swords; Sweet Pea carried what looked like a broadsword but never pulled it. A very minor complaint.
Also, congratulations, Coelasquid, for bringing to my mind one of the few things that could have made that movie even more awesome: Big Daddies. “I’m gonna take my toys, and go hooOOH SHII-” (Drill noises and screams).
tehe! A ‘BROAD’ generalization, in reference to crazy hot girls. xD
I have yet to see Suckerpunch, but anything with a lot of violence and hot girls has to be good, especially when directed by my favorite director.
I can’t wait to see it.
Also, Bioshock is one of my favorite games, so I love this comic all the more. I laughed quite a bit!
I dug it. I bought the soundtrack immediately upon exiting the theater.
But I don’t think I’m in love with it. My complaints are a bit more grey. Either it took itself too seriously or it didn’t take itself seriously enough. It was fine spectacle though, and the subject matter brought up not a few personal feelings. Maybe the personal perspective made me wish it was more serious about it, or at least more fun with it.
Yeah, it’s one of few movies I’ve seen that I really wish I could ask the director if I got what he was going for. I liked it for the message I got out of it, but I don’t know if it was the message Snyder was actively trying to put forward. Maybe that’s the point, that there are a lot of different ways to read into it and any one of them could be right. Whatever the case is, it made me think, and it really haunted me for days afterward. That’s more than I can say for most of the movies I’ve seen lately, even the ones I’ve enjoyed.
Well, according to Snyder, the studio made him delete some parts which would have otherwise made everything as clear as he wanted it to be.
Reason for deletion? The almighty PG-13.
You may have just given me a reason to buy the (hopefully inevitable) uncut DVD.
I still don’t know about this movie (haven’t seen it yet). It has a lot of good things in it based on the trailers and what I’ve heard, but it still feels “off” to me and I don’t know why. Maybe it’s Zack Snyder? I’ve not really liked any of his films so far… I guess I’ll just rent it on Netflix when it comes out..
Also (might just be reading way too much in to this), is the Batman joke in the last panel a reference to the fact that Snyder will be working with Nolan soon?
Naw, it’s a Harley Quinn reference.
My friends and I hated Sucker Punch so much we asked for our money back. We only did that for two other movies: Fighting and The Happening.
Oh my god I hated Fighting & The Happening so much! They should’ve been called Talking & Walking. Alternatively, The Happening could’ve been called Nothing Happening.
So that’s where Little Sisters go when they grow up…
Less of a plothole than Bioshock 2’s explanation.
I loved it, and this comic is funny as hell. XD
I just saw this movie last night, it was pretty awesome, and I was glad to eat my words.
Though seriously, there was a hell of a lot of mood whiplash there at the end.
Also, I get the joke, hurhur…
I’m not sure if you meant for the term “broad generalisation” to be a contextual pun, but I certainly hope so. It’s wonderful.
also, I had not heard of this movie somehow. I will have to go watch it soonish.
I absolutely adored this movie. I don’t know why people hated it, but I guess opinions will be opinions. Having never read the comic this was supposedly based on (Am I wrong? tell me if I’m wrong, I’m not sure) I really liked the story, along with the twist at the end. made me really think about storylines, and antagonists roles in movies and literature these days. It looked kind of like the movie was a point A to point B spectacle, but it gets you at the end. Also, the animation was wonderfully done, and I’m a big fan of hot girls flipping around in short skirts.;)
So as it turns out I was wrong. there was no comic. I don’t know where I got that :\
Is it just me, or does it seem like the Commander looks younger and younger with each progressing strip? I mean, compare his face in panel 3 to his face in any panel in the first comic.
Not that I’m complaining of course. Just wondering if I’m delusional or something. XD
The first comic he didn’t have a proper design, it was only the second time I’d drawn him ever.
I think it looks good. I actually like his appearance in both styles, but he looks a little more… handsome now.
Wow, JohnCon is CHEEEP! I mean, like, Frank Zappa approved CHEEPNISS. Twelve bones for a weekend pass?! MADNESS!
And that rolls right back into the asylum theme! WOO!
I only liked the dream sequences.
Quid… oh please, PLEASE introduce Batman! Your Kratos has already redefined how I look at the character (and I STILL want that Best Buy frame as a print or t-shirt); I would LOVE to see the treatment you give Batman! Please?
I live in Uruguay and we didn´t get Sucker Punch until the end of the month, that sucks!
I love Big Daddyes! XD
Pannel five almost killed me. It was awesome!
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As for the movie, I really liked it. I was a bit confused as to why it went from being a dark gritty asylum to a burlesque house, but in the end it all made sense. The action was really good, and the plot was just as good I think. If I didn’t have video games and movies to keep me entertained, I’d probably fantasize about killing dragons and stuff too! :D
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Awesome comic, as always.
As for the Sucker Punch movie: I haven’t seen it yet, I hear it’s good and I am interested but I do have to say – whoever did the advertising, you’re doing it wrong! It’s no wonder people think it’s a shallow movie with lots of fighting naked babes when you only show images of them doing so. It’s obvious to me they’re trying to pull in the sex&action crowd because for some crazy reason Hollywood believes those are the only people that would spend money on this.
I’m not happy with Hollywood marketing in general at all. Or the movies that sadly live up to those bad trailers. It’s like how games used to constantly cater towards hardcore gamers and it took people forever to realize there’s another market out there.
In the end I googled Sucker Punch and then finally found out spoilerish things that I won’t say but suddenly made the whole story more deep, something I wish they’d putten in the trailers and/or posters.
I think the marketing bait and switch may have been part of what they were going for, after all, a Sucker Punch is when you hit someone off guard.
Or at least it’s a way to trick the mainstream market into seeing what’s practically an art film.
The last one does make a lot of sense.
I for one would love to see a female counterpart to the agency for ludicrously macho guys. :P
Heh, maybe Sarah Kerrigan asking the Commander for advice on what to do with Jim Raynor avoiding her like the plague.
Love how commander says “If this dont work”
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If 4 big daddies couldn’t solve this how could batman, lol?
Batman would wreck four Big Daddys’ day.
Another thing I always wondered:
Is jared always gonna be a shrimpy skinny nerd guy?
I thought steroids was slipped into the water supply or something at the agency XD
I know it’s a tiny, tiny detail, but I do feel it needs to be made known.
I don’t think the Map action sequence included Nazi’s. If you will recall their guide mentioned the Kaiser, not the Fuhrer, assumably Kaiser Wilhelm who ruled Germany during World War I. This is backed up some by the fact the German soldiers wore the spike topped helmets rather than other gear more fitting for World War II.
Ah, interesting! Thanks for that!
Yes. They weapons used by the soldiers, as well as the uniforms of the non-Germans shown at the beginning of the sequence were also all WWI era. The only things that weren’t were the zeppelins and the steampunk zombies.
) : Poor First World War. It finally gets shown in a modern big budget movie in some capacity, and people are just mistaking it for its younger sibling.
whatsa matter, Coelasquid? Can’t draw anything besides Bouncers? Hehe. I’m just messin’.
I picked them because they look like the battle armour in most of the Sucker Punch posters. Which, when the trailers came out, we didn’t know was battle armour and had to wonder why the ads featured women charging into battle with a Bioshock character.
I really do wanna see Sucker Punch.
Quite frankly, I was just sold because the people who did Watchmen had to do with it.
YES! Another person I respect as an artist who liked Sucker Punch!
Sorry…I just like not feeling alone. Hahaha. Quite a few of my friends disliked it.
I think the Commander should have brought Subject Delta along too, he’s got more experience dealing with Crazy Hot Girls (or at least somewhat full grown ones) than most Bouncers or Rosies.
See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeSr4FGVew4
I don’t know what it says about me, but even at my age I’d like a protector who indiscriminately takes out the garbage.
Y’know…. At first I didn’t realize this comic was related to Sucker Punch because I really hadn’t been paying attention to it. I really thought Commander was talking about Video Game girls. Cause they’re have been quite a few games where the hot chick turns out to be crazy or the crazy chick to be hot… Anywho…
thats alot of big daddies for one chick O_o what is this a gang rape?
…I actually cried at one point in the movie. I felt like the characters were pretty well developed for the amount of dialouge given to them, so I really did kind of feel the “suckerpunch” they were going for. I knew it was coming, but that didn’t stop it from being shocking.
I tried to enjoy Sucker Punch, I really did, but the movie threw so much awesome at me that my brain just sorta shut down.
Meh, I wouldn’t put the ‘being a female, I’m not impressed by girls in tiny outfits’ thing as so general. I’m female, and I love exposed ladyflesh as well as exposed manflesh. :D It’s not so unusual for women to love women.
Honestly, I didn’t like the movie all that much. I really would have liked it better if is WAS a mindless action flick that somehow squeezed samurai with miniguns, bunny-faced mech suits, and chicks shooting orcs with machine guns into a plot that was barely stitched together using thread made of “rule of cool.” Instead, we got a big-budget film that wears the pretentiousness of an art house film. Even then, the actual plot of the film could be told in ten minutes time. It made me really sad once the realization that all the action sequences that the movie was sold on were all filler. All of them. Completely pointless. Pointless but awesome. Then the story segments were the complete opposite. I can forgive plot holes in stuff that is running on pure coolness. In fact, I expect it, but if you want something to be plot driven, make sure the plot is airtight. There’s too much to go into here, and I feel like I’ve droned on long enough. That’s my two cents about Sucker Punch.
Yeah, I can see where you’d get that. I think it danced the line for me, but it fell just to the positive side with my personal tastes. So I liked it, but it didn’t change my life. It’s still got me thinking and discussing it more than any other movie I’ve seen this year, so I think that’s got to count for some measure of success. I think the only other movie I’ve seen in the last year or so that stuck with me like this after the fact was Black Swan.
But yeah, I have no problem with people not liking the movie as long as they’re not liking it for their own reasons rather than ones they made up without seeing it or were told to think by someone else.
Makes me think of Emile Autumn’s Asylum for Wayward Victorian Girls.
I like the atmosphere of this page…so eeire
Emilie Autumn is AWESOME. The Sucker Punch Asylum made me think of her also, but so few people I know know her so I don’t mention it!
No…see that’s why you do mention it. Spread the Plague!
Teehee Big Daddies on a truck~
I saw this movie yesterday, it was good :3. It had more depth then I first thought. The ‘real’ and ‘fake’ world looked quite balanced to me.
I could not help but notice that you gave more and longer reactions on the people posting here then usual.
This is totally a reference to Barney Stensons ‘Hot to Crazy Scale’ from How I Met Your Mother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zADosF3XoQ
How I Met Your Mother may have been the first to make an xkcd style graph out of it, but the Hot-VS-crazy concept is far, faaaaar older than the show is.
No matter how good the movie is (And I’m sure it’s quite good since everyone seems to say so) you’ve got to admit the advertisements look like nerd pandering.
I think that may have been the point, the speculation about what the movie was about and the discussions that followed when it ended up being more than just nerd pandering are probably worth their weight in advertising budget.
And as it’s been mentioned, they very definition of a “Sucker Punch” is when you hit someone off guard.
I feel like a bad nerd for not having heard of this movie before this comic. I clearly need to look around for more than just superhero movies.
Women in pigtails are hot. Crazy, dangerously hot. Hopefully they have Batman on call if she’s wearing leather and has a spider tattoo on her stomach.
The excessive amount of rape attempts just made me uncomfortable.
However, good popcorn flick fo’ sho’.
Yeah, they really harped on the rape thing a lot…
It was especially akward to watch with girls, plus it made it a horrible date movie…
o, maybe an love interest for the guyrydos(?) guy, dont remember the name.
Asylum is a great place to pic girl, they are often cute, crazy and lovely :)
To be fair, it didn’t look good at all cause the commercials made it look terrible. The commercials basically say to me, “Here is a good looking teenager with big breasts that look fake, gets put into a crazy house, decides to go crazy, fighting off made up robots, fighting ninjas and etc. All doing this with skanky outfit with too short of a skirt that you can see her butt and private parts.” Added with cheesy lines and terrible story.
That’s what I got and didn’t want to see it or the commercials. But if it’s good like you say, I’ll get free version of it and take a look.
Also there is a new Big Daddy. It’s over 30ft tall, 100 something tons and it got wings.
http://images.wikia.com/bioshock/images/e/e5/Him_%28Demo%29.png
I’ve talked about what I thought of the commercials ad nauseum in these comments, you can probably pick a couple of my previous responses and piece together my opinions out of them…
Call me a completely dense retard but I don’t understand the point of trucking Big Daddies to an asylum. Are they there to murder all of the girls with drills? I’M SO LOOOOST
Also The Expendables was the greatest movie EVER
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The ads for the movie all featured the girls standing with a big Daddy-esque mech, with no explanation of what it was. This comic was more or less me just making fun of the Sucker Punch trailers.
The blond girl’s expression in the second to last panel always cracks me up.
Okay, moment of Fridge Logic: did Rocket, Blondie and Amber actually exist, or were they just part of Babydoll’s twisted coping mechanism?
PS, I enjoyed the movie as well, and even though this particular week’s comic makes no sense to me (never played Bioshock), it still has my approval as a well-timed parody.
You don’t need to play Bioshock to get it, the Big Daddies are just there because they looked like the Mech suit in the trailers. This comic is making fun of the ads more than the movie.
I was wondering the same thing about Rocket, Blondie and Amber, though. I’m inclined to say they diiiiid…. if only because when the orderlies are taking Baby Doll to the back room they say they “Won’t help him hurt these girls anymore”. That could be a general “orderlies abusing the girls” thing, but in the context it seemed as though they had previously seriously hurt inmates to the point the other orderlies called it the last straw. It’s probably a sloppy way to handle the reveal, but that’s how I chose to read into it. Amber was too great for me to believe she didn’t exist :c
Holy carp diem that’s a lot of comments!
Just finished reading the entire archive in like, an hour. I know there aren’t a whole lot of comics (some I read, such as Freefall, are from as far back as ’98), but I don’t recall the last time I read the whole archive in one sitting.
PS Great comic, haven’t seen Sucker Punch, seems like an On Demand movie. I have seen Battle: LA and am going to see Source Code, though.
Instead of big daddies, why not Mr. Fish?
I love you <3 Love you.
All though I saw and didn't care for it that much.
But I loved you as soon as I saw the asylum.
And now I get to wait for an undetermined amount of time before my theatre decides to even begin to *think* about putting the bloody thing in their lineup.
I want to watch and make my own opinion of it, even though I’ve only heard of it off-handedly since a few days ago, but dang it is frustrating just trying to wait.
I just hope they don’t pull the same stunt they did with other movies I briefly heard of, missed seeing, and wound up having to wait for it to come out on DVD before realizing it is was sheer, unfiltered awesomeness.
‘Scott Pilgrim’ comes to mind as an example. My theatre didn’t even have a bloody poster or any blurb of sort mentioned in the local paper. Not a single scrap of advertising anywhere, then BOOM, I find out *after* the fact that it was a one-day only Sunday matinee with only one showing instead of the usual two per day like for other matinee shows.
When I finally got to see it on DVD release, I couldn’t help but hope whoever made the management decision to treat it like it was at the theatre got a swift boot in the ass for their sheer incompetence, seeing as how amazing ‘Scott Pilgrim’ turned out to be.
So yeah, really, REALLY hope it’s not a repeat experience.
Forgot to mention that what I consider ‘sheer, unfiltered awesomeness’ would be the following criteria:
1) I can laugh at it and at myself at the same time as I make comparisons of false stereotypes to how in my personal experience they don’t really seem to be all that false….
2) I can catch references not only blatantly obvious but the well-hidden and/or obscure ones, as well.
3) I don’t take the film seriously and as such welcome a complete assortment of emotions at key sections without feeling any shame for having let myself slip into the fiction of it all.
4) Most importantly, I can feel comfortable watching the film with *anyone*.
If a movie matches all of these, I cannot see how it could possibly get any better. Not many movies have actually been able to do this for me, though, but all of them took me by complete surprise.
Sorry, I just felt I needed to clarify what I meant in my other reply.
Ehehehehe. “Broad” generalization. It’s funny because women.
It very well may be a good movie but I’m not much of a movie watcher, and it really doesn’t pander towards the movies I watch. (war movies and comedies, love me some FMJ) I did laugh at your comic (as always) Jared and the commander always makes me laugh.
Keep up the great work Coelasquid
I’ll be the first person to ask this (I think):
Is this about that io9 review that got spread around the Gawker sites, by that totally feminist writer that acted like she actually saw the movie?
I had the same opinion that you did then –> http://mcclaud.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/suckerpunch-review/
Worst part is I came into this discussion aeons after it ended, so no one will probably adequately comment on my comment and so it will go unnoticed to the ends of the universe.
Don’t worry, I read all the comments I get. It wasn’t about that, but yeah, that’s a pretty good example. I’ve just found in years of discussing things online, the majority of maybe not readers but at least commenters seem to decide they know what something is like without reading/watching/experiencing it. And if you’re trying to be diplomatic on an issue with polarized parties debating it, both sides will assume anything less than complete support is opposition without actually reading what you had to say. Even in real life, I hear people run their mouths about how much they hate something, and when I ask them what, specifically, they hate so much about it they usually concede that they’re just parrotting what someone else told them. Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem with people who disagree with me, I’m just on a constant data-gathering quest to figure out what makes one person hate something that another person loves.
I like how the Commander is not insulting his ex-wife or letting others do it. Even if she was crazy (very unlikely- the worst she seems to be is grumpy, and that was about prospective lobsters and spiders as pets) he knows she deserves respect as a human being. Manly indeed.
I walked out of the theater screaming “THAT WAS FUCKED” at the top of my lungs. That was an off-the-charts shitty ending. It said, “Pursue your dreams. You only have and 80% chance of being killed or lobotimized!” =D
I really wish this arc didn’t end here.
Am I the only person who WANTS the Daddies to fail so they have to send in Batman?
Okay, maybe I’m just Batman obsessed… But still!
HAHA! “Broad” generalization.
Wait, no follow-through on this one? We don’t get to see Big Daddies vs. Sucker Punch Girls?
Um, how much do you want to draw that?
This is the third time I’ve read this particular strip, and I’m still trying to figure out if you’re referencing “how I met your mother” when the commander talks about crazy and hotness levels, or if it’s a happy coincidence.
Or maybe Barney Stinson is secretly a huge fan of this comic.
Actually, that last one makes too much sense to me…
You know they act up to get the big guys to come out again, right?
Well i dated a porn actress after she got out of the asylum… Its not a joke… She had killed her ex boyfriend