I don’t blame her man, bras are not easy to wash
funny story I started brainstorming this strip after I’d gotten back from the gym and was like “ugh I really don’t want to go downstairs to the kitchen but I can’t leave whey protein in this blender bottle overnight, I wonder if this actually works…” and ended up washing my water bottle in the shower
Full disclosure, I basically spent my entire weekend making Iron Bull Horns for ComicCon and ended up doing this in like two hours sitting on the floor of my friend’s housewarming party.
I feel like Jones would live in kind of a poorly lit basement apartment with a bunch of roommates as is typical of cool young people living downtown and spending barely any time in their homes (and by “young” I mean Jones is older than me but Los Angeles crushes our wills and domesticates us by being the most inconvenient city to try to have fun in)
Is… Is that a new character? With Jones!?
Can’t be. Remember? Jones doesn’t do laundry. She buys clothes in mega-bulk and the donates them to Goodwill or some other place after she’s worn them.
http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/the-one-in-which-jonesey-is-the-most-relatable
I wanna know where Jones buys bras in bulk. You know how hard it is to find a good fitting bra that’s affordable? Hmm…maybe I’m onto a business model here…
for the love of god make it happen. save the womens from VS
If you do this, not only will I become a customer, I’ll sacrifice a goat in your honor!
*whets knife*
You can buy T-shirts in bulk and never have to worry about them; but find a bra that fits comfortably and you’ll be mud-wrestling Satan until he curses whoever dared to touch it.
-Sources: Growing up with 3 older sisters.
True enough. I have a huge torso, an a B-cup. If I ever find some that fit will I will MURDER anyone who touches them.
There’s been studies showing that the majority of women wear bras that don’t fit properly but *KNOW* this is the case. The reason that has been stated by most is that it’s too hard to find a properly fitting one, and when you find it, it’s usually the most expensive bra you ever saw.
Legit. I don’t have the luxury of being able to buy cheap bras that fit “close enough” because they are never remotely my size. Instead, I have to go to the other side of my state from where I live, and get 210 buck bras, because they come with custom fitting in the price tag.
Jonesy also mentions how long good jeans last in that page too…T-Shirts can be cheap if you’re buying in bulk like that but good bras aren’t usually sold in bulk, like T-shirts are. The obvious choice would be to find good bras (like finding good jeans) & wash them instead of replacing them.
For that, there’s: http://wapsisquare.com/comic/what-the-frig-newtonians/
Wait, what?
That is a seriously impressive shower.
It’s a tub shower. Used to have one of those. It’s not really that impressive, and feels like a health hazard.
I’m more impressed with the sheer quantity of dirty dishes in the tub. At its worst our house has a small sink’s worth. I don’t think we even own enough dishes to fill a tub.
I have filled a standard tub with dishes before. We were 19 and every dish and pan was dirty. Company was coming over. I left a few in the sink so it seemed believable.
Is there a difference between a tub shower & a bathtub with a shower head sticking out of the wall above it?
Yes. It’s called a shower curtain.
Or a door, but those are rarer.
I was considering more so the anti-gravity required to simultaneously shower and wash the dishes (I have a tub shower myself). I apologize for not being clear enough.
Suddenly, a roommate.
Okay, which one is you?
A bit late, but isn’t that the lady that handed out sparkly Pokémon to Jared?
Geez, this reminded me of a Big Brother here (in Brazil) where a gal brushed her teeth and shaved her legs… in a Jacuzzi
(she ended up losing her job after she was eliminated from the show)
Talk about *EWW*
But… where do you stand in the shower if it’s full of dirty dishes?
Also, for some reason I am imagining Jonesy’s roommate here is Violet Parr.
Jones has a roomie? Interesting…
hmm. that is smart and dumb. might do it one day
I was a teenager during the ’70s, a lot of girls didn’t wear bras. It was a good time to be young.
And then the eighties and nineties were bad times to be middle-aged.
Any time is a bad time to be middle-aged :-P
I quite enjoy being middle aged, no more looking after my children and plenty of time to read webcomix. And the sex only gets better.
Still it was a great pity when girls started wearing bras again. I thought progress was only in one direction but now I know better.
If you’re above a D cup since 5th grade (1980’s) and now sporting an H (according to the fit guides), going without isn’t really an option.
Hah, true story. My ex was a college student in a shared room of a boarding house. her room mate is a lazy pain in the ass ^^;; (seriously, that’s how she described her roomie to me at that time).
So does that mean Jonesy is gonna wash herself with dishwashing liquid? Shampoo isn’t very anti-septic lol
She’d be extra clean!
Maybe it’s the lack of colour, or just the lack of tags, but i have no idea who either of these people are supposed to be.
I’m with you there but the consensus seems to be that the light-haired one is Jonesy. This strip would fit in with what we’ve seen of Jones and laundry.
No idea on the dark-haired one.
Possibly a new character.
Seeing it in colour helped a little. And now that the description has been expanded it’s confirmed.
Wait, I thought Jonesy bought her bras in bulk and donated them after using them? Well, she does that for shirts, so I’d imagine she does it for socks and underwear too…
pretty sure those type of organisations don’t accept underwear in general because of health hazards issues
I used to work at a store that sold donated items, including clothing, and they accepted underwear.
That’s… Kinda scary… In so many ways.
Wash, bleach, good to go.
Also, not being a woman myself, I could be wrong but, unlike men who can buy underwear in 3/6-packs, I believe that bras (if not women’s underwear as a whole) are expensive enough to make just chucking them in a donation bin when dirty unfeasible.
It’s true. Jeans and shirts you can buy in bulk but a good, well-fitting, comfy bra? You wear that thing until the HOLES have holes. >:T (And then still won’t throw it out because nuuuu you just got it broken iiiiin!)
I can confirm this – I ended up sewing a strap back onto one of my old bras, rather than try and get a new one that fit. And I would do it again, if it were a choice between that and shelling out at least $50 for a comfy, good-fitting bra. (And that’s if they’re on sale at my favourite online store. If they aren’t, it’s at least 10 or 20 bucks more.)
My husband offered to make me custom-fitted boob holders for the holidays – and it wasn’t just a joke to get his hands on my breasts. Still waiting for him to actually DO it, mind. If he ever does, I may have to sacrifice small woodland animals to him (or to the deity kind enough to get him to follow through).
Hanes and Just My Size sell granny panties and hip huggers in 4 and 6 packs for women at Wally’s
When I was at uni we had a professor from Egypt stay with us for a few weeks, he did all his washing up in the shower, he also once cooked rice in a kettle by wedging the switch on and made tea by putting a tea bag in a bowl of cold water then microwaving it. All seem vaguely logical, but in reality just don’t work, we ended up with a greasy shower, a broken kettle and very weird tasting starchy coffee.
how’d he manage to make coffee from a tea bag?
I believe he made rice in an electric coffee kettle, which would lead to odd coffee when used for the correct purpose afterwards
Whats up with may-be jones right hand on first panel?
I live in a studio with a tiny sink and about enough space on the countertop by it to fit the dish rack.
So on more then one occasion I have washed dishes in the shower. Especially after slacking off on washing them or having to scrub the large pots.
I just had a brain burp moment where I loaded the comic, then forgot which page I had loaded, read the comic, thought it was funny, and then realized which comic I was reading. The contrast of the title and the content was almost as funny as the comic itself — these are, truly, Manly Guys who are Doing Manly Things. :D
Manliness transcends traditional gender. It’s a philosophy.
A MGDMT strip with no guys, the apocalypse is a-coming!
Look at that lack of care for “doing things right.” Jonesy is absolutely an honorary manly guy.
Not only that, but it also passes the Bechdel test!
So Jones has a roommate?
Why are you using whey? I mean… you’re a girl. Not a powerlifter or bodybuilder either. Do you even keep track of your macros? Do you know what you need in terms of protein? You need 0.8g/lb (1.6g per kg) of bodyweight when you’re maintaining or bulking. Slightly more when you’re on a cut. Whey exist so people can get their protein needs when on a cut.
I suggest you get myfitnesspal (it’s free) and track your calories, proteins, carbs and fat for a week so you get a rough idea how much you’re getting out of your diet. 99% of the time, you don’t need whey. Its seriously only for quite big dudes who are cutting fat down to sub 10%.
The heck you on about? Do we have a sexist spambot here?
I’m a powerlifter/olympic lifter. I know a lot about this shit. Now, if you were to read the text underneath the comic, Coelasquid mentions she uses whey after the gym. Which is just unnecessary for anyone except top level athletes cutting down to single digit fat percentages.
Nothing sexist about it either, girls are simply lighter and therefore have an easier time getting their protein just from diet.
I keep getting some kind of error where I’m told I’m posting too quickly, but this is the second time I’m posting in some 10 minutes. The hell is up with that?
This may come as a surprise to the kind of person who is able to obsess over a luxury sport hobby, but not everyone can afford a perfect diet, and if they want to also try to stay in half decent shape by hitting the gym ocassionally, they need to supplement their protein levels in a cheap and palatable manner.
You need 1g per lb. so if you’re a normal adult male, 200lb or so, you’d get there with a pound of chicken. (30g of protein per 100g of chicken, 231 calories). Or eating greek yoghurt (43g protons per 500g). You can get your protein requirements super easily out of food, even on a cut. You need to supplement it when you’re a 300lb+ mastodon who’s cutting at 2000 calories.
Whey is pretty much just shilling from the supplements industry. Hardly anyone actually needs it.
Wife is on a diet that emphasizes protein. She uses a protein powder (most of the time, just whey) mixed with fruit and some milk for a morning drink. There are uses outside the “professional weightlifter” circuit.
And as for the posting issues, sometimes the site effs up and counts posts from everyone as from a single person. Known bug.
It is ADORABLE that you’re a “powerlifter/olympic lifter” who knows so little about protein/eating food/common sense that you can’t imagine someone who isn’t an elite athlete finding a use for whey protein, haha.
Actually, if you follow Coelasquid’s tumblr you’d know she – an grown arse adult, not a girl – is awesome at the whole weightlifting thing (at least IMO – Seeing her posts of her lifting the entire set of weights on the leg machines and stuff is inspiring!).
Pretty sure I trust her to know whether whey protein is a necessary part of her workout and diet regime.
Honestly I’m pretty amateur and I’m sure if a personal trainer actually stood beside me and walked me through a workout there’d be a million things I could do better, but every day I find some new person giving me some piece of advice that totally contradicts everything everyone else told me so at some point you gotta just be like “sorry bro I’m just gonna try this for a couple months and see how it works for me” because otherwise I’d be trying a whole new approach to diet and exercise every day, which would get me nowhere. I started trying to reign in my eating habits a couple weeks ago (when I started at the gym I didn’t really amend my diet at all because I didn’t care so much about losing fat as being active and building up some strength) that involves eating a bunch of tiny high protein, high fiber, refined-sugar-free meals through the day, but I only have enough time to cook like, one meal a day tops so I keep lots of things to graze on on hand like broccoli and yogurt and cottage cheese and snap peas and green beans and nuts and stuff, then make things like stir fry or bison chili or whatever in bulk so I can grab scoop of it without wasting time, but a lot of the time whey protein is the closest thing I get a chance to make in the evening to a “meal”.
I dunno all things considered I feel pretty good a considering I spend like 16 hours of any given day sitting in front of a computer screen drawing cartoons. Certainly feel better than I did before I got the gm membership. I’ma keep doin’ me and see how it works out, if I’m not happy with how things are progressing in like two months I guess it’ll be time to try something new.
You make me feel bad! I also tend to only have real time for one meal a day but yet do not find the same kinda time you have for a workout type of goal. Yet you make it work! That on top of doing some of the other stuff you do like that Krato’s costume. Wish I had your kinda life ethic. :)
Eh.. everyone’s body is different and different things work for different people. There is no one end all solution. All you can do is try one thing at a time.
Nah brah, you gotta lift paleo style brah! Nah brah, you gotta do isomorphic lifting brah, slow it down take as long as possible brah! Nah brah, body adapts to the type of lifting brah, gotta go as fast as possible! Nah brah, full range of motion brah!
Yeah seriously, too much bro-science in lifting. Really, whatever works for you without injuring yourself. I’m at the point where I need pads on my hands to bench. I’m not much stronger than I was years ago, I’m just sick of crushing my palms every time I go to the gym.
I wouldn’t listen to most people at the gym. As for personal trainers, no professional athlete takes them seriously. It’s almost automatic: PT? You ain’t gonna be taken seriously by pros.
As for good info, I’d suggest the stickey on 4chan’s /fit/ board. It has some good, universally accepted info for beginners. They’re also a lot better about citing studies to support their arguments. Only downside is, it’s 4chan, and everyone is a raging sexist, racist asshole.
Well, okay. Maybe it’s more accurate for me to say you seem like an awesome weightlifter from my perspective! I really enjoy reading your posts about your lifting and such. If nothing else you’ve renewed the excitement I used to have for all the many exercises us women-types aren’t “supposed” to do!
My point stands, though. You know yourself better than Random Internet Commenters!
That’s it. I’m sick of all this “whey” bullshit that’s going on in weight lifting right now. Casein proteins deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I’m talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine casein powder formula in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that’s about $20,000) and have been training with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my abs.
Japanese alchemists spend years working on a single casein formula and test it up to a million times to produce the finest protein known to mankind.
Casein are thrice as protein rich as whey and thrice as healthy for that matter too. Anything whey can do, casein do better while tasting better. I’m pretty sure a dude using casein could easily bisect a dude who uses whey with just a right hook.
Casein point, but that’s not the whey they like it.
*chuckle**snort*
^Win.
ALL thumbs UP :D
This happened at my place when we had an absolutely vicious drain clog. Dishes in the bathtub.
I actually did the dishes in the shower before ._. I was so scared to fall down
I once lived in a shitty apartment, where the hot water failed a few times. (The landlord didn’t get the propane filled for the building on time)
One time it failed around the first day of my first post-college “adult” job. It had been out for a few days already, so I hadn’t showered in a while. The bathroom was unheated (another bad decision by the landlord) , and it was January in northern New England. A cold shower would be brutal.
I ended up using a lobster pot, and heating the water on the stove. I showered by pouring cups of warm water over my head, in the shower. It worked, but it did smell faintly of seafood still.
Around here we call that a Czech bath.
Because you just stay near a pot of water and splash yourself with it and it goes ‘czech czech czech’.
Really.
I know guys who have done this–not actually getting in the tub with the dishes to do them shower-style, but to actually fill up the tub with hot water and using about half a bottle of dish soap at once to get through a serious backlog of dishes. Let them partially dry on clean bath towels spread out on the (also clean) living room floor, then used the bathtowels to finish drying them.
Also, I don’t do single-use underwear, in fact I’ve just barely gotten around to realizing that no pair of underwear is really meant to be worn for more than a decade.
Dishes are an inimitable nemesis at my wife & I’s apartment; I refuse to let her do them, but I routinely leave a sink full of dishes for months at a time, just washing what I need… It’s real bad. I have a problem.
I have considered (& implemented, once or twice) taking some of the bigger backlogs of pans to my parent’s house (bigger sinks, & WITH A SPRAYER WOOHOO), but the idea of using the bathtub…. I actually really like that. This might help me. Thanks.
Isn’t more work to put dirty pots in the tub then it is to actually talk to your room mate about HELPING clean the dishes? It gets done faster and it’s better then being a passive aggressive bitch about the situation.
unless, of course, you HAVE talked to your roomie about it…. and they still do nothing to clean up THEIR mess (I didn’t eat with my roommates, I worked nights)
Then your roommates are jerks but honestly it still wouldn’t excuse passive aggressive sitcom situations like this. They now have dirty crap in the tub and it’s just going to have dirty body water and shampoo leavings on it. This did not get the dishes cleaner. Maybe a more serious talk would have. Just saying.
oh i agree putting them in the tub would be, um, less intelligent. we had an old-style fuse box instead of a breaker panel. i took the breakers to the tv and computer circuits, and told them when they decided to stop playing all day and act like adults, then power would be restored. actually, i didnt think it would work. lo and behold though, they couldnt figure it out, or didnt know how to go to home depot. they cleaned up their month of mess, and switched to paper plates. never had a problem again.
The goal is to shame someone into doing something. This usually comes after repeated direct attempts.
As for putting them in the bathtub, and having it backfire. Well, that’s just rule of funny. Otherwise there’s no joke.
>>Talking to a fictional character like her actions were driven by an actual person and not merely to build a joke
Wait, Jonesy is a slob? o_O
She buys her clothes in bulk and donates stuff she’s worn too much to charity so she doesn’t have to do laundry.
Okay, I don’t have the experience to know such a thing, but how are bras hard to wash? Last time I checked they just go into the washing machine just like everything else.
depends what type they are, unwired cotton ones can, any wires, lace, built in padding, or any of a multitude of other things can make it unsuitable for the washing machine
In other words:
“Just like many other things which have become ‘social norms’ for women over millennia of European/Mediterranean-originating societies, people have found ways to needlessly complicate what should be a simple concept to the point that it can be extremely inconvenient for reasons which defy all logical attempts at explanation.”
The real kicker isn’t so much that it gets to this point in the first place but that people keep putting up with it. That it keeps going despite how miserable it makes everyone. It’s like society enjoys causing massive background stress to everyone that takes part in it.
I’ve tried to no bra route. It hurts to move fast. Busty girls need support! (bra, wrap, whatever!)
That sucks. I’m a small B myself, I only wear bras when I go to work, exercise or go to formal events.
They almost all have some combination of wire, weird fabrics like silk or lace, and foam. they sell delicates bags you can put them in to survive the washing machine but anything short of handwashing them and they never feel right again. Even then, if you don’t hand wash them just right and any of the wire/padding moves around they feel weird and uncomfortable forever more.
I have a forum friend who is small-busted who washes all her bras in the shower when she showers at the end of the day. I thought this was a fucking brilliant idea until I tried it and realized the difference between handwashing a small B cup and a e/f cup bra is pretty huge
In addition to all that, even the cotton ones can get ruined pretty easily – those hooks catch onto any other clothing and the spinning of the washtub (or dryer) will cause it to pull things apart or twist the metal out of shape. If the metal gets twisted badly enough, that’s it, the bra’s pooched and you have to go buy a new one.
Lazy girl’s bra washing method: buy the special no-rinse detergents developed for woolens, like Eucalan (they’re pricy but go a very long way). Add one cupful to a sink of warm water (or if like me there’s often toothpaste residue in the bathroom sink and noodles in the kitchen, use a bucket), submerge the bras, leave for half an hour, squeeze out the drips in a towel, then hang up somewhere to dry naturally (it’s not great to put them directly on a radiator) – clean bras with minimal hassle! Especially good for the kind with wires and lacy bits
This is basically what I do, yeah, with a slight amount of spot-cleaning for areas that are looking particularly grungy.
There’s also the matter of ‘if you don’t need four people in order to afford a two-bedroom apartment, count yourself lucky.’
Jones is my spirit animal.
Is Jones related to Jared somehow?
She’s definitely taking the metaphorical leaf from his book, at least.
Jones is totally a bachelorette frog.
Hahahaha what :D
Jonsey’s roommate is cute.
I love your comics (just found them in march and got all caught up within a week) but have you ever thought about adding Sam and Dean Winchester? I keep getting a picture in my head of the brothers trying to lead a normal life, and then trying to kill Kratos whenever he gets angry.
Just when I thought she was the normal one…
She buys 12 gallon jugs of shirts while donating her old ones cause she doesn’t like to do laundry. Not to mention that even The Commander has made mention to the fact that Jones is the Swiss army knife of abandoned hobbies (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/set-facebook-to-its-complicated) when it comes to knowing, well, anything at all.
Normal does not exist in her vocabulary.
“I don’t blame her man, bras are not easy to wash”
Well, I fucking do! Sweet shit Jonesey is sooo disgusting. I’m actually *surprised* she showers tbh. And “save time? Hun, have you spent any amount of time bent over a tub or kneeling on cold tile?
Also, I’m not sure how you’re struggling with the bra thing. Fill sink with soapy water, let them sit for a bit, *gently* rub away any excess dirt/put extra soap on some particularly smelly bits, rinse, roll in a towel then hang to dry.
As far as I’m concerned, Jones should get her undies in there too. In all honesty, it doesn’t take very long wearing a pair (male or female) before they start to get a little natty…
It would solve most of her laundry problems, wouldn’t it? Save some money instead of buying new stuff so often?
seriously, i wash my bras with “man hands” nag champa soap. it smells wonderful and your body heat will produce a whuff of incence every time you bend over. it burns me that importing them to cda now, more than doubles the purchase price not to mention duty and tax on top of that. but ya, just soak them, rub gently and rinse.
as far as the dishes, makes me wonder why jonsey doesn’t just donate the cookware?
read a sci-fi story where people just showered off what they were wearing at the end of the day. someone should invent self cleaning pots and plates as well. – or we should all get free robots.
why doesn’t she use paper plates?!
Sometimes, you have to use actual plates for the food you make even if you use paper plates regularly. I’d probably be throwing out half of those dishes cause it’s a good chance that a few of them have a couple of months of mold on them.
Don’t worry about washing them. Now that they are all conveniently in one place that is an adequate wet room, just borrow a high powered water sprayer from the cap. He seems like the type to have one around.
And this is why I consider a dishwasher a basic necessity.
Not going to lie, when I first saw this strip when it was in black and white and minutes after it was uploaded, I thought this was a reference to that television program “Don’t Trust the B in Apartment 23.” Even if the coloured pages show off that it’s Jones in the shower, the roommate still bears a striking resemblance to Krysten Ritter.
“(and by “young” I mean Jones is older than me but Los Angeles crushes our wills and domesticates us by being the most inconvenient city to try to have fun in)”
It’s true! Having fun in Los Angeles is like robbing a bank. There’s a variety of obstacles put in your way for the sole purpose of stopping you from having fun, and if you wind up having fun anyway, it’s only because you cleverly outwitted the forces arrayed against you by some combination of courage, technological skill, ingenuity, audacity, and stylishness. And of course it’s no coincidence that Hollywood, which makes having fun in Los Angeles look so easy and awesome, is in fact located in Los Angeles. Lies upon lies.
I’ve totally done that. Of course, back then my shower didn’t have a proper plate, only a portion of floor with a bent metal thingie and a very big drain.