I hosted a Summerslambecue and drew this after like five beers
August 18, 2014
2:53 am
I cooked kangaroo, alligator, bison, boar, beef, llama, and ostrich because my barbecues are great.
Anyway yeah, when I was a kid we had some like, Avengers pinball machine with Cap on it at the Rec Centre and it would always run that “Winners don’t do drugs” PSA all 90’s arcade games did. And it was like “Is this really the best character to attach this message to…?”
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Heh heh. That actually reminded me of skit on Dorkly that makes fun of the game’s message (I think you can just type Captain America into their search and it’ll pop up) as well. I love that this seems to be one area where where he seems to hold a genuine bit of resentment, as it makes a lot of sense.
here the link:
http://www.dorkly.com/video/16944/dorkly-bits-captain-america-uses-drugs#!bGcnOR
Hmm, cant help but wonder, if he wasnt steriodrogers, was he the one who started out scrawny and bulked up over the course of a summer?
No he was kind of fat compared to his brothers and worked it off while he was enslaved by vikings, we just saw that a few weeks ago.
He was already all muscly before that, the viking slave ship just dropped the layer of fat on top.
He was raised in a hyper-militaristic environment to be the best soldier, and probably designed to have easy muscle buildup.
I doubt he was ever scrawny.
A little touchy there, Commander.
I love Steve Rogers but I feel like Commander would find public perceptions of him super irritating, like that’s the supersoldier that people know a couple facts about and think they’re educated on the matter. Like Commander’s breed of super soldier probably feels the same way when people talk about him like Australians do when people quote Crocodile Dundee at them.
But Crocodile Dundee is awesome! I would much prefer that than than constantly being referred to as a violent convict, I mean the ONLY ancestor of mine that was sent here as a convict just stole a loaf of bread…
BTW how was your Summerslambecue? Roo meat is really good, (no, seriously it is literally the best red meat for you) but you have to have it fairly rare because if you even overcook it a little bit it becomes super tough and stringy.
Was this ancestor named Jean Valjean by any chance?
I thought only British convicts were sent there ,Jean Valjean was French. And fictional.
Deportation is tricky… some folks just piss off everyone, and deported from more than one country. My ancestors got kicked out of Scotland, Germany and Ireland to end up in America. Then we started disowning whole family branches.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-105#french-convicts
Nope.
At least you can say you’re a First Fleeter! My other half is only first generation Aussie, barely better than Pom! (in some people’s mind)
I’d far rather have an ancestor that could rail at the man. Much better to have been Transported, than to have been religious fanatics (the Pilgrim Fathers), or the descendant of the people who BENEFITED from the highland clearances (me).
Then again, I’m a third generation engineer from scotland who loves James Doohan and Groundskeeper Willie, so I might not be the best person to comment.
… and here I though the 40K Space Marine would be the more common joke.
Nice Captain America reference. still it was a one shot deal for Captain America and I can’t help but wonder how things would have changed is the Captain America had needed a constant supply of Super Soldier Serum the way bane needs a constant supply venom
Whatever happened to “not even once”
I don’t quite remember that but then again I never was all that big of a Captain America fan. I know if her mother sleep through the Avengers and Spiderman comics. also the time he came out there was a scientific experiment to make a super soldier they never specifically specified how that I can recall
Thing is, it cant have been a steroid, because that would pass through your system pretty quickly. I think the comics changed it so it was actually some sort of mutagenic retrovirus.
“Vita-Rays”!
I guess they never managed to get their hands on this kid’s genes in the spacefuture. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/24/us/a-very-muscular-baby-offers-hope-against-diseases.html
That title makes me ponder the legitimacy of this new article.
I always get pissed off about this tired joke; Cap isn’t super human, and the whole point of the character is, well… his character as a person.
Several people in the Marvel U have gotten injected with variants of the super soldier serum and none has ever matched Cap in integrity (US Agent for example, who was a replacement for Cap for a while was STRONGER, but lacked the moral integrity of Rogers) wich is what Cap is all about.
Movie Cap is a lot stronger than comics Cap but at least they got the character right for once and didn’t turn him into Ultimate Captain America how is a jingoistic son of a gun.
Doesn’t change the fact they injected him full of sweet pecs and abs. You can be a person with a great personality and still have your occasions of chemical intervention. And it doesn’t make the “don’t do drugs kid” message any less hypocritical when it comes from someone who literally owe their success to performance enhancing chemicals if they’re also a pretty nice dude.
Not to mention all the One Weird Old Trick For Getting A Six-Pack and The Miracle Weight Loss Food That Obama Doesn’t Want You To Know About ads.
I do agree using Captain America for a “Don’t do drugs” message is pretty hypocritical and a bad choice.
Though, what would your opinion be on the nature/talent vs the hard work debate in this case? Steve Rogers and the Commander both have determination, solid work ethics, empathy and intelligence. But Rogers is frequently depicted as never being able to get himself to so much as average physically despite that effort: Marvel describes pre treatment Rogers as quite physically frail, and literally a list of physical issues were presented preventing him from standard army enlistment. The super serum also kind of worked like a medical treatment on him and addressed various health issues, which is generally considered okay today.
The Commander’s beyond a Gattaca baby is just how far along the genetic engineering was with physical potential, and kind of gets stuffed with things like plate armor whenever he sees their medical staff. He had to work for it, but unlike Rogers, he *could* get it through work, and was raised in the military to assure it.
If people were doing Captain America’s super-soldier serum, that would be a good thing. Who doesn’t want to be fit, healthy and smart well into their nineties? Using science to overcome the weaknesses of a body developed by random mutation pruned by catastrophic failure is what medicine should be about.
Using heroin, on the other hand, is just stupid and makes you stupid. It is no coincidence that krokodil users are generally former heroin users, even though anyone with half a brain would prefer the heroin withdrawal to what krokodil will do to you.
Also note that the serum (at least in MCU) also enhances personality traits. Cap was basically already pure good, so he became even better. Your average Joe in search of easy weight loss & muscle gain is probably not on his level. (Hell, I know I’m not. I’d totally end up going darkside)
Preach.
The serum didn’t turn him into a master strategist and neither did it train him to be the most fearsome brawler of the Marvel Universe in hand to hand combat. He’s Superman without the flying, invulnerability and vision powers.
He is not a role model because he “didn’t do drugs” but because he’s the ultimate general on the field and the one person in the MU you can trust completely to do the right thing.
The guy throws with people who can bench press continents and has at least TWO embodiments of deities complete respect and trust. Hell even Frank Castle knows to keep his mouth shut around him.
Oh my god dude I don’t think you could miss the point harder if you tried.
You really think a character who walks around holding a beer bottle and a cigar like 60% of the time thinks doing drugs makes you not a role model? Or do you think maybe he just gets irritated when people try to ignore the lumps to make the final product more squeaky clean?
My favorite is Luke Cage, who got the serum while in prison (framed in a drug bust), broke out and started a team in Harlem that protected people as long as they could pay. You can’t get more “blacksploitation knock-off” than that even if your name is Shaft.
Luke Cage never got the SSS, he was the test subject of a completely unrelated medical experiment meant to enhance healing until a racist guard screwing with the settings caused the experiment to have results far beyond those originally intended.
Until the Retcons that added in people like Protocide the only ones who received the SSS were the 50s anti-communist Captain America and Bucky and without the vita-ray treatment to stabilize it they eventually went insane (although after they were released from cryogenic storage Bucky at least eventually got treatment to deal with his mental issues while 50s Cap was killed).
I don’t think kids should ever take advice from fictional characters. I took all my advice from fat freddy and howard the duck, look how I ended up.
High and dating Lea Thompson?
I love this comment.
Can’t tell if kids are concerned they’re going to fall because he let go – or if they’re trying to soothe him down.
The kids can balance themselves on Commander’s shoulder. That’s what my students at Gymboree Indonesia can’t do XDDDDDDDDDDD
Well -I was referring to the way the daughter was just holding onto his shoulders in second panel and then in the third and fourth she’s grabbing onto his head.
Commander is like Giant Robo when it comes to giving shoulder rides – if he’s not holding onto you, you’re holding onto his head.
Wow, your barbecues sound absolutely mind-blowing, why can’t any of my friends barbecue like that? Ostrich burgers are my favourite thing.
What did you think of Kangaroo, AKA Jump-meat?
I tried it once, and found it had a very strong flavor, and not in a good way.
What about goat meat? Here in Indonesia, goat meat are a common menu. In Islamic Eid Adha ceremony in here, we sacrifice goat as the memorial of what Ibrahim (Abraham) did thousand years ago with Ismail (Ishmael).
I’ll spare the details ^_^
I’ve have goat. It too has a strong unique flavor, roo-meat is still in a class all on it’s own.
My ‘exotic’ meat dealer even cautioned me about kangaroo. That guy will eat anything, and he said he doesn’t really like it.
That sounds like a lot of tasty meat to cook.
Jones is looking a wee bit unshaded though, in the last panel.
I honestly didn’t notice until you pointed it out – I don’t think it really matters.
Coleasquid did mention she drew this while drunk. I’d cut her some slack.
I honestly think it looks good that way.
Am I the only one who cares about where you get that meat from? So I can order it all?
Seriously though, where do you get all those meats from?
As long as it is allowed by my religion (which is Islam, btw), i’m okay with almost ANY meat.
You know, there was an actual brief story arc where they talked about this in the comics, sometime back in the 90s. First, one of Cap’s supporting characters pointed out that he’s a living poster-child for Better Living Through Chemistry. Shortly after that, he had to go undercover into a teen camp (that turned out to be a recruitment station for one of the Red Skull’s subordinates)–and to do so, he needed to be turned into a teenager….
… Which completely rolled him back to ‘scrawny teen’. He had his mental training, but his body wasn’t able to keep up even with the combat moves. He had to win pretty much on pure grit and determination–which, of course, he did.
And, when the spell was taken off, he was re-buffed as soon as his age got to the right point again.
Somehow, this was supposed to establish a difference between Cap and steroid users. I never quite followed the logic there (although it DID make it clear that Cap was Cap, even without the serum).
I think a better example would be the “Streets of Poison” arc where Captain America accidentally inhales a load of meth and, in trying to get it out of his system, gets the Super Soldier Serum removed along with it. He proves to himself that he doesn’t need to “rely on a drug” to keep being Captain America and the story ends on a “Don’t Do Drugs” note.
However, this got mixed reactions from the public, so a few issues later the Serum was reintroduced with the explanation that it actually behaves like a virus and will keep multiplying as long as there’s a piece of it in the bloodstream. “Once a Super Soldier, always a Super Soldier” is what Cap says about it.
Crap! I’ve never had grilled alligator, and I had years of opportunity, living in New Orleans metro area my entire childhood. Not that I regret a single bowl of gator sauce picante, or fried tail medallions. It’s super weird we never did bbq any, though. You’d think at some point that that would just HAPPEN, in a place where you can find an alligator in the ditch, by accident.
Hating on Captain America. Rightfully so in the case.
Not seeing why you think that. Captain America’s not and never has been a drug user, he’s a medical patient who received a medical treatment to cure his physical issues and with that one treatment it was over and done with. It’s a gross miss-characterization to equate Captain America with drug abuse or use of any sort.
Much like “I cannot tell a lie”, which was pretty much the biggest one yet.
It’s a Murrica thing.
By the way, holy shit it was uncolored this morning, was it halfway colored already or are you a machine?
You can answer in “true” and “false” if it makes it easier. Binary is cool too.
I want to go to one of your bbq’s :o
Goodness gracious, Commander! Swearing in front of the kids…
Because he’s badass. You should’ve red the earlier comic strips. However, he “redeem” himself by being a good father to his children.
Apparently my feigned shock didn’t translate over my Internet connection.
Dragoncon TV did a great view on this on an Avengers PSA: http://youtu.be/uDSKkIFnXdQ
So I noticed you had a Summerslam BBQ. Whats your opinion on the Brock Lesnar Vs John Cena match, and the Ziggler vs Miz match?
You are wrong: the Super Soldier Serum was never considered a drug. It was pure, distilled, injectable AMERICA!!!
It’s a shame that Summerslam had such a crappy ending though.
I assume it’s building up to Roman Reigns ascending to the top of the mountain and taking down Bork Laser at Wrestlemania or something.
Cap didn’t do drugs, he got them from a doctor (professor, whatever)!
People do prescription meds all the time.
There is a place about 2 hours from me that does emu pies. I’ve never tried them but it sounds like you might like them.
You know, this just occured to me, but who exactly has custody of the Commander’s kids? From what I can figure out they definately spend more than weekends with him, so is it like a ‘you take them a week I take them a week and we split holidays’ kind of a deal?
yeah, the commander and his ex wife have shared custody, which basically means they take turns looking after the kids, idk what their schedule is though but people in their situation it’s decided by a court
How does that factor in with time travel I wonder?
He’s drinking buddies with characters from Ace Attorney. They got him a special arrangement. Plus, as it was recently explained, he’s officially stationed in the past and only goes back to the future whenever he wants to complain or if he wants to catch up with his brothers and sisters.
OK, I know I’m late to the game, but I a huge pinball fan and I cannot for the life of me figure out what pinball table you are talking about. There IS an Avengers pin, but it was released in 2012, so that doesn’t seem like what you’d be talking about.
I might be gettin’ it confused for some Marvel arcade game honestly, I know Terminator pinball and all the marvel games ran the same “Winners don’t do drugs” PSAs, I might be getting them crossed (Terminator pinball was especially funny in that regard as well, like “yo Arnie that include steroids?”)