Whenever I try to reason how Terminator hair can time travel I alway end up imagining terminators in ugly Christmas sweaters
July 10, 2015
10:05 am
I had fun watching Terminator Genisys, I don’t care if it was cornball, it had a warm fuzzy totally indulgent ending and old man T800 was a delight.
Thinking a bit further, there’s not a lot of things we wear that would not be eligible as “organic matter”.
First you have direct “taken from living and or dead animals” materials: leather, wool, fur, silk… Then you have plant by-products: linen, cotton… and then you have anything synthetic since all those things(lycra, polyester and the shit) is made from oil, and oil is nothing but ancient organic matter under a lot of pressure.
Unless there’s some kind of mineral suit available there(I can only imagine how itchy sea salt underwear would be), I don’t think there’s anything non-organic in the realm of garments.
And even then you could argue some minerals are organic matter, like Limestones and stuff.
“Organic” refers to carbon compounds, excluding salts and alloys.
Limestone isn’t technically a mineral, it is however calcium carbonate, meaning it is an organic compound.
So you’re saying that a limestone-based armor system could in theory time travel?
It can’t just be organic compounds or the water in their bodies wouldn’t travel with them. They’d show up in the past, perfectly freeze-dried.
Well, there’s always chainmail.
Yeah, but chainmail (as with pretty much all metal armor) is something that you wear OVER clothing, because you definitely don’t want to wear metal without some kind of protective layer.
You’d feel every single strand of body hair that USED to be on your body if you wore chainmail without clothing
Not to mention the incessant pinching when all those rings shift around as you move.
Eesh.
I made that mistake once. My chesthair still hasn’t grown back properly.
Getting drunk at LARP events can backfire.
Well if your jeans are held up by metal buttons and zippers your pants are probably gonna fall down during time travel…
Yes, but there is iron in our blood as well. Not having that go with you would be rather problematic. Although a lot of metal in clothing is probably not iron, or at least pure iron. But a lot of it can probably found in the human body to some extent.
They’ve actually proven that you can fuse metal to organic material and still be living material, so that one has been sorta indirectly proven.
If this is Terminator logic we’re going by, if the iron is encased under the skin its fine, like the Terminators’ metal bodies.
The iron in your blood is a different isotope from the stuf in regular metal items though
It’s also not pure iron. It’s part of the hemoglobin protein.
Do you think a zipper could be made out of dried blood?
This opens up vastly new uses in the slaughterhouse industry.
Now way. Biological systems have no capacity for isotope specificity at all, otherwise we’d have evolved mechanisms for ejecting radioactive material.
No, it’s the same isotope, Fe-56 (mostly). Chemical processes treat different isotopes of the same element as if they were identical. Hemoglobin is a chemical compound of iron, oxygen, nitrogen, carbon and hydrogen. In this form, it isn’t a metal, as it lacks metallic bonds.
Steel and other iron compounds are metallic alloys of iron and carbon, with different types (pig iron, wrought iron, etc) separated by carbon content. Other steel alloys incorporate iron, carbon and trace amounts of other elements like nickle, chromium or molybdenum.
Maybe it needs to be ionized.
(@RobK: It is the same isotope.)
Iron in your blood is surrounded by your skin, anyhow. And it’s kind of a plotpoint that metal encased in organic matter is valid. With the whole….terminator involved. xD
^^^ What this gentleman said. Hence why none of the characters up there are going into systemic shock brought on by suddenly missing cybernetic implants.
That’s why you use horn or bone buttons
Or at least wood.
Yeah, but horn buttons look so much better with a suit, unless you’re going for something like teak.
that shoukld be something with a really beautiful grain, like teak or rosewood.
I do some leather working, and I’ve made pants with no metal parts… well not pants, it was a kilt. But if you don’t think it’s appropriate to go through time and space to kill people in a kilt then you don’t know what it means to be manly.
If you disapprove of kilts please pass your man card to the front of the class and your complimentary estrogen starter kit will be in the mail shortly.
I don’t disapprove of slaughtering people whilst wearing a leather kilt, yet I find it mildly disappointing that I can’t take my oxidized-by-blood cast-iron kilt spikes with me when going to punch long since dead people in the face.
Asbestos is a mineral fiber, they use it in fireproof clothes (used to?). You could also be wearing foil… So clothes are easy but guns would be hard
Its also poisonous and causes cancer soo yeah not many people use it anymore.
Fun fact, most car brake pads are made of asbestos, unless you spring for performance or high end pads, you probably rely on asbestos on a daily basis.
That’s not quite true. Asbestos is no more poisonous than fiberglass, and cancer is just one of the possible side effects of having gajillions of spiky needles stabbing the insides of your lungs (which is also what happens when you inhale fiberglass).
Asbestos is also still used in some pretty common products, like brake pads, vinyl tile, and insulation.
It’s been phased out of tile and insulation. Asbestos is more dangerous than fiberglass because the fibers are smaller and more likely to get stuck in your lungs (also because they are smaller, more likely to be airborne in large quantities). Asbestos get actually get you in two ways. Cancer of the lungs from asbestos exposure (mesothelioma in this case, which you can not get from fiberglass) and Asbestosis, which is not cancer but is a shortness of breath caused by too many fibers stuck in you lungs and blocking air movement (also scar tissue from fibers stuck in your lungs). This isn’t to say that fiberglass is perfectly safe, it’s just not in the same league as asbestos. (I used to work in the abatement industry, so I know a bit on this subject)
There’s also 2 types of asbestos. White asbestos you will get cancer from prolonged exposure. Blue asbestos is the REALLY nasty stuff ANY exposure will give you cancer. So naturally enough the British decided blue asbestos was awesome and used it in everything.
“All these science spheres are made of asbestos, by the way. Keeps out the rats. Let us know if you feel a shortness of breath, a persistent dry cough or your heart stopping. Because that’s not part of the test. That’s asbestos.”
We forget that the terminator is a robot, and is made entirely of inorganic or ‘non-living’ material. Also, no living person travels back in time during the terminator movies, only the terminators. If we’re going by that logic that would mean that organic material can’t travel through time, but things like iron and steel can. It’s all a big cover up, they weren’t capable of time travelling living things at the time, Rock and the gang are actually robots and they didn’t want them to know.
Kyle Reese time travels so many times dude.
I always imagined that his hair just grew in super fast, and since he’s a robot underneath, his robot parts just told it when to stop instead of going over board.
Also, it is my head canon that terminators would always have perfect hair for just this reason. If you see someone who’s hair always does exactly what they tell it to with no effort what-so-ever, they’re probably a terminator.
Kyle Reese was a human that went back in time, and he didn’t end up bald. He also still had his teeth, so apparently calcium gets through too.
Remember that they said that the Terminators can go back because they’re encased in meat. Therefore bones (including teeth) can travel back because they’re covered by your lips / mouth.
And now I feel sorry for poor Two-Face / Harvey Dent, if he ever went back in time half his teeth would be disintegrated.
So what your saying is that you can actually wear whatever you want back in time as long as your wear a suit made of porkchops over it.
Yes. And I think you need a PHD in temporal mechanics or something for that. Or at least Skynet labeling you as “potentially relevant” and not murdering you outright.
Liquid metal can also go through just fine without the need for flesh
That would be after the kinks were worked out. Given that it’s time travel, as far back as they needed to be.
Could’ve been wearing a skin or porkchop suit before the timewarp though.
My headcanon is that Terminator actually arrived in a cute leather handbag.
Made of human flesh.
Great, now I want to throw up.
The thought of a fictional leather handbag made of human skin repulses you?
Anthropodermic bibliopegy is a thing. The art of binding books in human skin. For really reals.
Enjoy your throwing up.
All superheros have instant good hair even though they wear masks.
man….this made my day :D
They thought about time travel! And is that Rock’s ex in the back?
It’s only thinking while in the process of time-travelling
Which one? The cute freckled girl on his right?
Nope, we’ve seen her before in group pics.
Isn’t the Commander’s ex native to this time period?
He also dated a fellow who made the decision of going almost “Full Machine” in the Space Future.
*cyborg
fellow cyborg
That was the lady on the far right in front of the big guy.
I thought that was spider! Crazy how she went from being the smallest to the biggest of the lot.
She’s from the future too.
I don’t think so.
Far right looks familiar, though.
Believe Kamino Neko was talking about the mother of his children
Didn’t the terminators always go alone, though? Maybe the kink isn’t so much that other stuff can’t go through as it’s more of a The Fly type situation.
Naw, the new movie (and the Sarah Connor Chronicles) sort of rule out the “one at a time” idea…
I think the whole “you have to go naked” thing was just a prank the time travel guys played on Kyle Reese.
And for the T800: It probably was easier to just send the nearly indestructible Terminator naked then to try to create fake pre-war clothing in the correct fashion.
Couple questions:
Is it just me, or are the two tall guys looking at Rock like “Dude, do you ever stop complaining?”
Are the two raven’s twins? They both have black hair and their facial structure is very similar (she is slightly darker skinned and he is more ‘oriental’ but still look ‘twin-like’)
And, who is that cutie with the freckles behind Rock’s right shoulder in panel three?
The male of the two is Ace, from CB’s clonegroup. The lady is from another group that includes the two girls behind B-52 as well as a fourth one.
http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/happy-four-years-of-mgdmt shows them – the big guy’s there too along with the ful-cyborged version of the one on the far right (Rock’s college sweetheart).
One of the big guys, but not the really big guy
Okay, so Ace and Jet aren’t from the same ‘batch’, but was it just co-inky-dinky that they look very similar?
I guess. I only noticed that one of them was female when I read the comic for the fourth time. That’s when I noticed the boobs.
Possibly made with similar intentions, or a bit of genetic copy-paste from lazy scientists.
I can just imagine that “yes” response to be slightly delayed for comedic timing purposes.
Also, I’ve always wanted to sip a drink from a coconut… suit of armor optional…
It’s delicious. Nothing like the disgusting taste and texture of storebought coconut flesh.
Damn garlic bread, being all garlic-y and bread-y and there just begging to be eaten.
Mild Genesys spoilers
The only thing that would have made the movie better is if the t-1000 from T2 had shown up to kill time-traveling John Conner, and they’d had a fight. That woulda been cool
T-1000 bothers me because it’s made out of liquid metal. The only way it could work is if it had a flesh shell it wore then discarded when it arrived.
Actually, it did. In one of the original drafts, the T-1000 was meant to pop out of a bag/egg of flesh. However, it would have ultimately ruined what was, at the time, the single biggest twist of the movie: The T-800 was the /good/ guy.
Sure, just spray a light layer of biomatter on it, send it through, no muss, no fuss.
Come to think of it, that’s probably the same way you make sure a human gets through unscathed (though Kyle certainly didn’t enjoy it either way).
The garlic bread makes for a brick joke.
I had this idea for a Duke Nukem one-shot.
Panel 1:*Nukem kicks down door guns at ready* “I’m here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and…”
Panel 2:*A group of confused gangsters playing cards in a Juicy Fruit (or other suitable bubblegum associated) factory*
Panel 3:*Duke Nukem Facepalms*
i can picture it or every time he trys to say that line they toss a couple pieces at him
When I think about stuff like hair then I just think about stuff like teeth and NAILS not going back with you.
Then I don’t WANT to think about it.
Why is Ace the only shiny one?
Ace, being James Bond, can engage in every single variety of luxury body treatment from assorted lotions to get a shining but not oily glow to traveling back in time to ensure that an Hermes cologne with a rich respectable legacy is made custom for his person all easily and without any points against his masculinity. Then again, this whole comic is built on dismantling societal definitions of masculinity to the extend that only being an asshole negatively effects one’s manliness so I guess the latter skill is rather moot.
However, being a bishounen also negatively effects masculinity.
Only if they’ve been changed to please another kind of audience, when they were originally designed as rather standard manly men to begin with. They can be bishies and still be manly, as long as both traits were included in their original appearance.
He just didn’t like being one because that’s not him. You spend your whole life getting used to your skin and learning to live in your body, someone alters it without your consent that’s not cool.
Simple solution? Time travel is absurdly energy expensive, based directly off how much mass you’re transporting back – possibly operating exponentionally, giving extreme diminishing returns.
Hence why they can only send a single Terminator at a time, and why they send them naked. A few extra pounds of clothing and perhaps weapons might not sound like much, but if saving every bit of power matters then it just makes more sense to procure on site.
Do Terminators have the same mass as humans? I feel like all that metal underneath would be much heavier
Originally they were only sending one at a time because that’s all they had since the human resistance was literally smashing down the door at the time. They sent a T-800 after Sarah, the new T-1000 after John and hoped for the best. The human resistance sent their reprogrammed T-800 to stop the T-1000 and Kyle back to stop the T-800 and then blew the place up to prevent further tampering in the timeline. Then T3 happened and the timeline started changing.
Wait, are you saying the start of the plots from T1 and T2 (the sending back in time) happened at the same moment in the future?
That is very trippy thought
Yes, that is the plot. I’m guessing exposition usually gets cut out in tv broadcastings.
I always figured that if it was something quote un quote special about the field generated by organic living matter how come they don’t just simulate the field so that things can move back and forth free time weather there living or not?
Is it just me, or does (relatively) tiny, skinny, and black look super uncomfortable?
Her boyfriend is getting bullied about his physical insecurities by his brother.
Jonesy is all laid back and chillaxin’ while the super-soldiers are all hard at work making sure she stays alive.
Pretty sweet deal she’s got there.
That’s because she’s just there to hang out and prepare the meat
It’s not like she doesn’t contribute, or that they’re not having fun. We don’t see what Rock’s taking aim at right now. He could be setting up an elaborate prank that requires the gun to set it off.
Now why he’d need an antimateriel rifle for the purpose is beyond me, but I’m not complaining. Any prank that requires an antimateriel rifle is either going to be spectacular or disastrous, possibly both.
Wait, if this is a flashback of their early days, why is Rock still missing a tooth and have a broken nose?
Branding.
Wasn’t he ‘born’ that way?
It happened earlier than the events of this comic.
Terminator would have been a very different and probably much more terrifying movie if he’d arrived in a bespoke suit.
Dappernator… a new level in terror!
Terminator Agent 47?
Imagine a cross between Gordon Gekko and Agent 47
Like something out of that game, “Sir, you are being hunted”.
Man, I’m jealous. Those look like awesome onesies.
loved the new terminator movie, it felt like terminator 2 all over again, i was happy
Dat plot twist, tho… ^^;; Dayum.
But hair is alive. Everything in a human body is alive. Once its disconnected from the body, its no longer alive. Just like with leaves on a tree.
Actually, the majority of hair is dead cells, like nails. There’s a reason it starts getting dry and people try so hard to prevent it.
Geebas…That big guy in the back must weight a ton…
What about the red-head in the back? Is that Commander’s Ex?
Which one? His future-time ex is the dark skinned beauty next to Jet, the mother of his children is from the ‘present’-time (may be wrong about that, but don’t believe she is a clone)
Nope, Commander’s ex is native to “present” time line.
You are all breaking the first rule of time travel. “Don’t think about time travel”. This is why your clothes got left behind.
See, once they figured that part out all the other problems became irrelevant, including the clothing issue.
No, that only happens when they are in the process of time travelling
Yup. The process starts when you decide to go time traveling.
What I alway wondered was why Skynet didnt just make a big sack from that synthetic skin stuff and stuff it full of weapons for the Terminator so he didnt have to go around mugging random criminals for equipment as soon as he reached the past.
It’s all about Rule of Cool :P
Yep, Jonesy, just forget that you’ve already time-traveled… or was that “you left to travel in the past but haven’t yet arrived in the spacefuture so it’s not FULLY proven or something”?
Also, I do like how all the travelers have previously appeared – nice continuity nod.
What are you looking at? tHIS IS MY TIME TRAVELING OUTFIT.
Um, yes, please ignore the all caps – I must learn to look at what I’m typing on the screen, instead of watching the television screen behind it.
Wollybear… hmmm…. not a bad nickname for Rock (of course Rock Lobster is his nickname, but since the real “name” is a long serial code, the first nick gets to be his name, at least in my head). Now I cannot take out of my noggin CB with a t-shirt with Wollybear in jack d’s font innit. I think too much. :P
so uh… when are we going the see the most evil thing carried in the face of existence even satan(castelvania) would considered the hidden evil god would deem the horrific existence to the whole infinity the “FRUIT {muffin or salad} BASKET”
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i mean all them bananas would make even raiden look like a hilarious monkey of evolution(aiming for the lolz only i respect the series even platinum games [clover studio] had a hand in making.)
Holy shit there’s actually someone bigger than Rock on the team?
So Commander Rock Lobster & …Beefcake?
I, for one, am hugely impressed with anyone who had enough wherewithal left after reading this one to actually make an intelligent comment.
I am dying over here, I can’t breathe!
I can’t stop cracking up! Everyone’s expressions in the third panel! The “Yeah, why do I still look like a woolybear?” Dying, I tell you.
Thank you so much for this one!
“end up imagining terminators in ugly Christmas sweaters”, Ha! I love the way you think, CSquid!
That’d keep me awake at night. Like figuring how to get Bruce Banner impregnated by a face hugger without him transforming and killing it mid-process. Cos I want nothing more than a Hulk-Alien / Gamma-Xenomorph-thingy somedays. But I digress, loving this story arc …
Face hug him while he’s sleeping, problem solved. And since he’ll survive the bursting you can do it again and again.
Yeh, that’s kinda where I got to with it. Now I just wanna see it happen :-)
Arrrr, I be just a simple sailor of the seas, but I be wonderin’ what it is use to create these here comics. Me apologies if this be common knowledge, I simply seek to satisfy this ol’ pirate’s curiosity.
Manga Studio 5ex.
It’s nice to see that just about everyone I’ve talked about Genisys with has had the same thoughts on it: fun, action, lots of references to 1 & 2, solid pop-corn movie in its own rights. The only qualm I’ve heard was from my dad, and that was just about the OTHER time travel in it, because that little backstory seemed like it could have been its own movie as well (but was only about 3 minutes of flashback)
But yeah, damned fun movie, I managed to go in without reading anything about it or seeing any previews (I think I’m going to keep doing that for movies I’m interested in, keep the mystery & discovery fresh)
Now, It may just be me, but I was under the impression that one generally held a rifle to their shoulder, rather than their face…
… Maybe that explains the broken nose…
Yeah, Terminator: Remyx may not be up for any awards any time soon, but I loved it anyways.
WHAAAAT?! THERE’S NO NEW COMIC ON MONDAY?! HOW DARE YOU! YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP TO A RELIABLE SCHEDULE! I DON’T CARE IF YOU POSTED A SECOND COMIC ON FRIDAY! YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO YOUR AUDIENCE!
… Okay, now that I’ve typed that out, hopefully I have preempted any entitled idiots, filling the inevitable baseless complaint quota, and preventing such silly comments… Unless this very act has kickstarted them instead, in which case, I am truly, deeply sorry…
The comic for this week went up early, I drew two comics last week because I had ComicCon and a friend’s wedding going on when I would have been drawing this comic normally.
Love Jonesy kicking back in the suit of armor. She has the best life!
This one related in a percentage of none, since, CB aka RL aka WB is supposed to be a “Tychus Findlay” kind of character, but could , maybe, possibly, pretty please with huge ginormous cartoony eyes (and saccharine voice) Tychus appear? You know, for science (hopes that work)
If you really think about it, a Terminator can come through the time portal with all his robo-parts because they are wrapped in a Arnold-shaped meat bag.
So why didn’t SkyNet just drive a future-tank up a Blue Whale’s ass and send the whole caboodle back to get the job done with authority?
Have you ever tried to shove a whale into a time machine? It’s really really difficult.
I think once you invent the technology to fit a tank up a blue-whales poop-shoot, the whale-swallowing time machine just kindov invents itself.
You mean the Young Adult Terminator movie where wounds don’t bleed and people make lots of angsty speeches? Egad.
Wooly bear.
Woofy wooly bear.
Nom nom nom.
And adorbs.
<3
Also, ROTFL re the Christmas onesies and backsassing.
I had to google “wooly bear” and now my roommate is imagining the commander as a caterpillar and he won’t stop giggling.
I feel like the garlic bread’s been mentioned before, but I can’t find where
In the arc with Jared at the gym.
I like Jones’s armor. Plate steel is a good look for her.
Also, that rifle Rock has looks a whole lot like the M-98 Widow from Mass Effect. Good choice.
so if i wanted to i could just send tar and feathers through random time holes and maybe hit someone lol
Yeesh…everyone in panel 3 looks so jacked. The white ginger at the far right is like hulk jacked. What have they been feeding these guys? Super strong steroids nicely hidden in their garlic breads?
Also, i never seen the ginger guy ( at the far right) in any of the comics. Who is he?
Not to be off topic but for the run of this comic I have not seen any characters from the Darksiders games or the Space Marine one.
Commander as a woolly bear caterpillar vs. millipede for the win!
Seconded.
Are you going to publish collections (digital or paperback) of manly guys? Cause I love it and would really like to purchase such a thing(s). ^.^
Angel is surprisingly top-heavy without clothes on. And jacked. She wears both very well.
She’s like six feet tall and a hobbyist bodybuilder, she’s probably the biggest of the women.
Let’s see…The outermost couple of layers of skin are also dead. We’re constantly sloughng off dead skin cells as new skin grows underneath. So if nothing dead would go through a time-port, then they would also look like they came out of a long hot shower of scrubbing with steel wool…And *very* sensitive to any physical touch & hot/cold air temperature.